RIP Dedicated throwing

[22nd_King_Plazek]

I have played since beta and Nord Javelin Cavalry is the most fun way of playing I have every found

Shame you can't do that in C-RPG any more.

You know the mod where you play the class you want to make.

[Seawied]

I have played since beta and Nord Javelin Cavalry is the most fun way of playing I have every found

Shame you can't do that in C-RPG any more.

You know the mod where you play the class you want to make.

Good times. When the nord cav got their free javalins, I remember doing melee javalin duels and dodgeball. It was awesome.

[Homey_D_Clown]

ruined my 50/50 split 2h/thrower hybrid. now i got a crossbow instead of my large bag of balanced heavy throwing axes : (

[cmp]

Don't despair, the item slaves balancers are already working on it.

I don't have specific info, but I believe it includes accuracy buffs, ammo buffs and slot usage reduction for some weapons.

[Cheap_Shot]

Don't despair, the item slaves balancers are already working on it.

I don't have specific info, but I believe it includes accuracy buffs, ammo buffs and slot usage reduction for some weapons.

Thats cool. I like the sounds of that, but is that hiked wpf need being looked at? I think it was raised a little too high, since throwing is a strength build. Its what broke pure thrower builds the most in my opinion.

It would only have to be lowered a little bit. Being able to reduce my needed weapon master from 4 to 3 would make a world of difference, since I have to spend all my skill points converting to agility. It leaves the build useless and handicapped.

[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

Don't despair, the item slaves balancers are already working on it.

I don't have specific info, but I believe it includes accuracy buffs, ammo buffs and slot usage reduction for some weapons.

How long is it gonna take to get these changes in?

[AlbaTiger]

Thats cool. I like the sounds of that, but is that hiked wpf need being looked at? I think it was raised a little too high, since throwing is a strength build. Its what broke pure thrower builds the most in my opinion.

It would only have to be lowered a little bit. Being able to reduce my needed weapon master from 4 to 3 would make a world of difference, since I have to spend all my skill points converting to agility. It leaves the build useless and handicapped.

This so very very much.

As things currently stand it is flat out impossible to get enough wpf for high end PT while having enough skill points left for a little athletics, never mind the fact that Javalry is still up shite creek needing 4-5 Riding and 1-2 Horse Archery.

[EponiCo]

This so very very much.

As things currently stand it is flat out impossible to get enough wpf for high end PT while having enough skill points left for a little athletics, never mind the fact that Javalry is still up shite creek needing 4-5 Riding and 1-2 Horse Archery.

24/12 build. Or 21/15. I don't really buy it that it needs pure str, I'm doing quite ok with only 18 now.

[Native_ATS]

24/12 build. Or 21/15. I don't really buy it that it needs pure str, I'm doing quite ok with only 18 now.

7pt isnt high end.... and 18 agi is fail, go troll somewhere ells
also 7pt throwing wont kill a fly...

[Seawied]

throwing really did need 8-9 pt in order to do well. The extra agility isn't much more effective.

[Cheap_Shot]

throwing really did need 8-9 pt in order to do well. The extra agility isn't much more effective.

Amen. It isn't a pure throwing build if you aren't as good at throwing as possible.

[Gorath]

7pt isnt high end.... and 18 agi is fail, go troll somewhere ells
also 7pt throwing wont kill a fly...

Amen. It isn't a pure throwing build if you aren't as good at throwing as possible.

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Great examples of fail

[Cheap_Shot]

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Great examples of fail

Any particular reasoning? Or are you just looking for attention? We are having a discussion here and you are adding nothing of worth to it.

[Gorath]

Any particular reasoning? Or are you just looking for attention? We are having a discussion here and you are adding nothing of worth to it.

For the same reason I say archers that say that anything less than 10 PD is useless and won't kill anything.
Hell, if it's less than 10 PS melee is useless, god forbid you hit the guy more than once amirite?

I've had tons of time using throwing in c-rpg.  Many different throwing weapons (though my main love was always wardarts overall specifically because they required more hits unless it was a headshot) and throwers always say anything less than Y PT is worthless.  It's always been complete fallacy.  It still is.  I have a character now that STILL uses wardarts with a PT of 6 and he STILL drops people with them.

[AlbaTiger]

Yes but you will note that in my post which started that set of replies I specifically mentioned HIGH level throwing.

I didn't say that mid-level throwing was useless but the point is that if you are only using mid level throwing then without a doubt you are playing a hybrid build and have a back up weapon which you are able to defend yourself with after making your handful of throws.

A dedicated thrower on the other hand ONLY has his meager number of throws and has to get as much damage as possible in with those before being rendered pretty much useless.

Not to mention that even with Power Throw 10 the damage output of a thrower for 2 slots worth is UNDER 100 damage, compared to archers 5-600 and crossbows 800.

That damage output is one of the biggest points, a hybrid archer or crossbow can still potentially put out 300-500 points of damage while being able to put points into defending themselves better with a backup weapon, this is still considerably more than a DEDICATED thrower.