serieus question.

[rufio]

so when will they retweak this 1 handed stab?? im not even qqing or trolling, this is a concern, i play 1 handed alot, and that shit is clearly breaking the game. there used to be a time where all stabs were chamberable by skill, now only the 2handers remain, the 1handers have joined the polearms in their insta stabs, it like they hit before the animation hits you. silly implementiation imo, im all for a buff compared to how it was previously but current state is not improving the game imho.

[Strudog]

Just like the 2h and polearm stab?

[Vovka]

nerf archers!

[Kelugarn]

Just like polearm stab?

What.

[Fuma Kotaro]

When will they Nerf the 2h lolstab finally

[BlueKnight]

We can live with this 1h stab. I would rather ask about changing knockdown formula. During strategus battles you just end up lying on the ground half of thy battle.

[Grumpy_Nic]

I dont think the 1h stab is a problem. It was a 90% fail chance attack before, now its working properly.

[rufio]

When will they Nerf the 2h lolstab finally

lol stabs are weird, but atleast u have time to react to them, unlike current 1handed stabs and somepole arms where u dont need to lol. on a side note:  even 1handed heavy cav cant charge a 1hander straight on anymore.. the stab as been overbuffed .. period.

[Razzer]

I don't really think 2h stab is that OP...
I mostly bounce off people with it nowadays. I found the 1h stab to be more useful to be honest...

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Now gimme lots of infamy Panos 

[rufio]

I don't really think 2h stab is that OP...
I mostly bounce off people with it nowadays. I found the 1h stab to be more useful to be honest...

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Now gimme lots of infamy Panos 

this.. alot of people on forums including myself in the past , dont play all classes, and just stick in this overall notion of things, instead of really testing and trying out current meta.

[Erzengel]

Wrong forum section qqfio: http://forum.melee.org/the-chamber-of-tears/

Quite pointless to discuss with somebody who claims that lolstab is the only non overpowered stab. 

[rufio]

chamberable... read nub. in general i think they should increase weight on 2handers, my heavygreatsword isnt as op on the stabs because its slower on the turnrate, also people forget the stun from being blocked is heavy on 2handers.

[Kafein]

I agree with qqfio on one thing : polearm stabs are not chamberable and need to be fixed.

[NuberT]

since when are you using chamberblocks at all rufio? aren't you facehug-hold-hiltslashing the shit out of this game all the time  - that shit can't be chambereblocked as well btw..

personally I find polearm stabs way easier to chamber than 2h lolstab, because there is no delay, you just need to be quick and the distance doesn't really matter.

Instead of nerfing the game again, I'd prefer if they would buff chamberblocking, increasing the time windows by 10% or something idk..

[Prpavi]

The main villain here is Pierce damage and has been always.

The way pierce damage works, combined with "drag" from stab animations on pole/2h/1h and speed bonus you get too much damage. I don't mind 1hers having good stab animations but I mind being oneshotted to the face with 56 head armor, same with pole and lolstab.

I don't know how different damages work, don't know the engine at all but it would be lovely if there was a way to nerf pierce damage all together so the stabs lose some of their deadliness. I use MW Bamboo on my main and with only 5PS and 9 ath I deal shitloads of dmg, too much imo.

We have a new job for Tydeus: Nerf pierce (if possibru)!