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What do you think of dueling with a friend at the end of a round ?

I do not see where is the problem.
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This is a problem
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End round dueling ?
« on: September 16, 2013, 03:41:44 pm »
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What do you think of duels between friends when all your team run after the last survivor at the end of a round?

Ok, tk/th was not alowed by the rules, but dueling with a clanmate when you are 12 vs 1 was fine or not ?
2 of my friends was ban for tk by karasu yesterday because he make a duel during the time that the team kills the last hx of the other team, what do you think of that ? (link)

Because karasu is not able to give a better explanation, I would like to know the opinion of players, other admins and devs.

For us (OdE clan), it is clearly an abuse of power, they do not bother anyone and anyway, the team would have won (12 vs 1 hx).
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 03:57:50 pm »
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I was mislead by the poll!  :mrgreen:

No 2 friends dueling in the same team tking each other is just unecessary. Dueling in general when 1v3 etc. situations I approve of.
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 04:03:25 pm »
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It is unlikely, but your team could need both you and the friend you're teamkilling. 
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 04:06:15 pm »
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I was mislead by the poll!  :mrgreen:

No 2 friends dueling in the same team tking each other is just unecessary. Dueling in general when 1v3 etc. situations I approve of.

Sure, it's unecessary, the duel was just for the fun, nothing more.
Everyone knows how annoying it is to run after a hx at the end of a round.

It is unlikely, but your team could need both you and the friend you're teamkilling. 

12 players vs one hx ?  I guarantee you that they did not need them at this time  :wink:
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 04:09:59 pm »
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Well, you can discuss all day long... in the end of the day tking is still not allowed...  :rolleyes:

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 04:10:54 pm »
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In your case i guess its okay - at least not the worst type of teamkilling :).


BUT there are some "hidden" problems (and thats the reason why some admins do react) :

Teamkilling/-wounding is against the rules.

Also this might give new players an idea of teamkilling being tolerated - which it is not.

If everyone would tk his clanmates at the end of a round, it could sometimes result in a lost, but most likely in a delayed round.

Once started, teamkilling sometimes goes completely chaotic and spreads to other players.

And sometimes admins don't get that it's a clan intern, funny, trolling tk-duel.




Just stick to the rules when you face strangers - but never forget to troll a bit with your friends and to enjoy yourself.

IMO too serious players are worse for the game than trolls are.


Also, you can always ASK admins ingame if its gonna be tolerated or not.
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 04:16:46 pm »
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In your case i guess its okay - at least not the worst type of teamkilling :).


BUT there are some "hidden" problems (and thats the reason why some admins do react) :

Teamkilling/-wounding is against the rules.

Also this might give new players an idea of teamkilling being tolerated - which they're not.

If everyone would tk his clanmates at the end of a round, it could sometimes result in a lost, but most likely in a delayed round.

Once started, teamkilling sometimes goes completely chaotic and spreads to other players.

And sometimes admins don't get that it's a clan intern, funny, trolling tk-duel.




Just stick to the rules when you face strangers - but never forget to troll a bit with your friends and to enjoy yourself.

IMO too serious players are worse for the game than trolls are.


Also, you can always ASK admins ingame if its gonna be tolerated or not.
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2013, 04:17:21 pm »
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You can TK friends at end of the round.  That's generally accepted as there being one person left on one side.
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 04:27:16 pm »
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Sooooo never gonna go beyond trial <3

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 04:29:25 pm »
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Just stick to the rules when you face strangers - but never forget to troll a bit with your friends and to enjoy yourself.

IMO too serious players are worse for the game than trolls are.


This.

kick should be enough if admin is really pissed about it. 1 day ban is abuse, just warn before and it's ok.


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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 04:29:31 pm »
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Choose one:

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pinching inches               (x)

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 04:29:45 pm »
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Everyone know that there is nothing more annoying than running after a hx at the end of a round.

how is this annoying at all, if so your making yourself angry for chasing a bloody horsemen which you will never catch.

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2013, 04:31:02 pm »
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You can TK friends at end of the round.  That's generally accepted as there being one person left on one side.

no.

it will and should still be punished!

But maybe not with the banhammer.
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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2013, 04:33:26 pm »
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Intentional teamkilling is against the rules, period. Which means that if you do it an admin has the right to punish you for it, regardless whether it influences the outcome of the round or not. Now me and my clanmates have 'occasionally' 'accidentally' killed eachother near the end of the round, and often admins have been witnesses and they let it fly, but I would not complain about it if one decided to ban for it. It's a risk I am willing to take.

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Re: End round dueling ?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2013, 04:39:36 pm »
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Obviously, one shouldn't be anal about enforcing the rules in such a situation, but, as Teeth said, you don't really get to complain about it.