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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2013, 02:03:26 am »
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As a nurse-in-training who has already taken the great bulk of my core anatomical, physiological, microbiological, etc classes, I can say for certain that the male erection is just as involuntary as the female's production of lubrication.

If you insist that an erection constitutes consent then you are stupid.

That is the bottom line.

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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2013, 08:53:08 am »
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Physically overpowering someone isn't the only way (or even the most common way) to rape someone. If you're drugged and unconscious, or they're blackmailing you into it, or you're a small child, then it doesn't matter how "manly" you are. It's not really a matter of being able to fight them off. Plus, even in those cases there are women who are stronger than men, its not like men are universally more powerful.


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Plus, even in those cases there are women who are stronger than men, its not like men are universally more powerful.
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2013, 09:13:50 am »
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Plus, even in those cases there are women who are stronger than men, its not like men are universally more powerful.

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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2013, 09:34:30 am »
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Well, my wife is over 180 cm, about 70-75 kg, doing crossfit 2-3 times a week, + conditional training, + weightlifting with trainer few times a month: i bet she can lift and throw most of cRPG players :D I sometimes wonder if she could knock me out, if she would get pissed off enough :) I hope i will never find out...
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2013, 09:56:35 am »
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Maybe if she gets divorced from Armpit first.
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2013, 10:22:48 am »
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As a nurse-in-training who has already taken the great bulk of my core anatomical, physiological, microbiological, etc classes, I can say for certain that the male erection is just as involuntary as the female's production of lubrication.

If you insist that an erection constitutes consent then you are stupid.

That is the bottom line.

It doesn't and that is the problem with male rape you mentioned before, it's the perception of: it's up he wants it.
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2013, 10:15:41 pm »
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Well, for most men, this is true, since the penis is really their center of command.
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2013, 10:41:14 pm »
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Well, for most men, this is true, since the penis is really their center of command.

think through your brain, not your dick, thats some important advice

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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2013, 11:33:36 pm »
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Pay attention to your surroundings, don't get drugged. Manly men do not get blackmailed. Small children are not called men.

I really hope this is sattire...


Also, I apologize Prpavi, I misinterpreted you, I thought you were saying that it was a definite sign of consent, when you were really just pointing out that some people perceive it as that.

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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2013, 11:47:50 pm »
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I really hope this is sattire...


Also, I apologize Prpavi, I misinterpreted you, I thought you were saying that it was a definite sign of consent, when you were really just pointing out that some people perceive it as that.

No harm done, all good  :wink:
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2013, 12:33:06 am »
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I'm just curious to know if the health care of the rapist actually takes in charge his HIV test.

I do know i'm just an easily angry person, when in comes to thoses kind of situations, so i know my attitude is always "a bit too much".
But i really don't get all the "life in prison" is already a big punishment. If you're talking about 5 years or more, then okay.

If it's less, you might consider it as a "free of charge" place, where people give you a room with a roof and a bed to sleep in, feed you everyday, do health checks on you, and sometimes even give you free consultation of a therapist. They can go jogging outside, are allowed to read books too. Would you really consider that an "horrible" life ? He really deserved that "punishment".

Something is just wrong with the system of the state "paying" to TRY to bring the citizen back in the right side. Wich... often fails.
Just, the poor person had a difficult childhood, you need to give him another chance. What ? He's already been here three times already ? Well... still deserves another chance.


What's up with the "life-long emprisonment" too... do you realize how much it costs...


So yes, there's been cases of criminals wrongfully accused, and allowed to go free after years of prison. How many does that represent ? Should we have a more tolerant prison just because "sometimes" justice does mistake ? So everytime you'll condamn someone, you'll always think : "what if he's innocent, then we better treat him well".


I recently re-read "World War Z", the book full of testimony. What's funny and accurate, is that the president decided to bring back public corporeal punishment, for even thiefs.
Why , because they didn't have the ressources to keep prison.

But do we ?




Back to OP : Yes, i admit feeling very hapy when i see thoses kind of texts. Definitely guilty people actually getting "punished" for what they have done, BECAUSE of what they have done. If he hadn't raped her, he wouldn't have been through all that. Feels right. Right back at you, rapist !
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2013, 12:47:32 am »
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I'm just curious to know if the health care of the rapist actually takes in charge his HIV test.

I do know i'm just an easily angry person, when in comes to thoses kind of situations, so i know my attitude is always "a bit too much".
But i really don't get all the "life in prison" is already a big punishment. If you're talking about 5 years or more, then okay.

If it's less, you might consider it as a "free of charge" place, where people give you a room with a roof and a bed to sleep in, feed you everyday, do health checks on you, and sometimes even give you free consultation of a therapist. They can go jogging outside, are allowed to read books too. Would you really consider that an "horrible" life ? He really deserved that "punishment".

Something is just wrong with the system of the state "paying" to TRY to bring the citizen back in the right side. Wich... often fails.
Just, the poor person had a difficult childhood, you need to give him another chance. What ? He's already been here three times already ? Well... still deserves another chance.


What's up with the "life-long emprisonment" too... do you realize how much it costs...


So yes, there's been cases of criminals wrongfully accused, and allowed to go free after years of prison. How many does that represent ? Should we have a more tolerant prison just because "sometimes" justice does mistake ? So everytime you'll condamn someone, you'll always think : "what if he's innocent, then we better treat him well".


I recently re-read "World War Z", the book full of testimony. What's funny and accurate, is that the president decided to bring back public corporeal punishment, for even thiefs.
Why , Becuase they didn't have the ressources to keep prison.

But do we ?


Back to OP : Yes, i admit feeling very hapy when i see thoses kind of texts. Definitely guilty people actually getting "punished" for what they have done, BECAUSE of what they have done. If he hadn't raped her, he wouldn't have been through all that. Feels right. Right back at you, rapist !

I have been in prison for three days, and I can tell you, that I was glad I could leave afterwards. It was a very pleasant prison, btw, only the facility for investigative custody, because it was only a minor military disciplinary punishment (which they delayed long enough that I had to go to prison in civil, because the service was over by then).
It's very easy for someone who has never been there to dismiss it as a short holiday of sorts, but psychologically, it's actually quite tough, if you are used to freedom. Because this is what they take away from you. Your freedom. Everything is decided for you, and whatever you want to do, it doesn't matter, because you can't. Also, the boredom makes you insane. On the morning of the third day I seriously considered storming out when they brought the food, just to see what would happen, because I was bored to death.

I really pity anyone that has to go to prison for more than a week, and I would probably hang myself after a month at the latest.
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2013, 04:18:54 am »
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It's all perspective... To someone who has income, a steady job, and a worthwhile life, prison is terrible of course.

But when you are a gangbanger who lives on the street and fails daily at hustling or making any kind of income... only to never have enough money for food and shelter. It's like a vacation.
They get 3 meals a day, workout equipment, a roof over their head, even leadership and mentors, most include television in your cell, plus running toilets, heating/ac, and clean clothes... best of all  they don't have any responsibilities.

In the states we have very lax prisons... if you are in with one of the major groups of whichever prison you happen to land in, you are in no danger and you meet a bunch of friends.

I wish we would bring back chain gangs and use our prisoners as labor or sell prisoners to china, so china can work them in hard labor or at least send them to russia, so russia prisoners can scare them straight... costs around 100k annually for each prisoner in max security prisons. Ridiculous... 100k!!! Majority of Americans will never make 100k in a year in their entire life.
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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2013, 04:54:49 am »
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ITT: male circlejerk acting as if false rape reports are actually a common occurrence

just add a healthy dose of victim blaming and "oppression towards males" and you get your typical male discussion on rape

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Re: Justice for Rapist?
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2013, 05:04:22 am »
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ITT: White male circlejerk acting as if false rape reports are actually a common occurrence

just add a healthy dose of victim blaming and "oppression towards white males" and you get your typical white male discussion on rape
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