To our fellow muricans

[Xant]

I never claimed there aren't different "levels" of hypocracy in different people, I merely somewhatishly stated that Kafeins statement wasn't really stating much as everyone are hypocrites to some degree, Kafein even included "to some degree" in his initial statement which makes it even sillier.
Also, until someone I trust to actually know it tells me what life's "main objective" is I'm not gonna go ahead and label someone evil and someone good for reasons that may or may not mean anything, and besides that, I believe the vast majority of people will generally convince themselves that what they're doing (even if it's purely for their personal gain) is either fair, for a greater good, or pleasing the great almighty creator, therefore pretty much everyone including various terrorist groups and einstein would be attempting to do good, and if good and bad isn't about attempting to be good/evil but is about the end result being good/bad according to common modern morality we'd be calling a bunch of very wellintentioned people, who today are considered great and good, horrible evil pieces of shit.

http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Metaethics_sequence

[Kafein]

Most people try to be good within their own value system. This value system relies on what they know, and have been teached. Some nazis executed Jews and were proud of it because they genuinely thought it was a good thing to do.

One of the hardest parts of ethics is to find a sufficient subset of values that are actually shared by humans universally. I don't think such a thing exists, as our cultures and psychologies vary greatly in that regard. Even talking about killing is extremely complex as things like self-defense, war (or even justice in some backwards cultures mkay) can change our perception of the problem.

[Xant]

Most people try to be good within their own value system. This value system relies on what they know, and have been teached.

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[Kafein]

[citation needed]

I'm not a walking encyclopedia

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zis in camps were conscious of doing evil stuff ?

[Vovka]

One day in the far far future, a black man can safely fuck the white in ass right on the street, calling him sweetty and  together admire the rainbow. Lesbian party will fight for mandates with the party of pedophiles and decide in which country it is time to change the cultural values ​​of the people... I am glad that we have Putin ^^

[Dezilagel]

One day in the far far future, a black man can safely fuck the white in ass right on the street, calling him sweetty and  together admire the rainbow. Lesbian party will fight for mandates with the party of pedophiles and decide in which country it is time to change the cultural values ​​of the people... I am glad that we have Putin ^^

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[Kafein]

One day in the far far future, a black man can safely fuck the white in ass right on the street, calling him sweetty and  together admire the rainbow. Lesbian party will fight for mandates with the party of pedophiles and decide in which country it is time to change the cultural values ​​of the people... I am glad that we have Putin ^^

So wait, do you genuinely believe homosexuality and pedophilia go hand in hand ?

[Vovka]

So wait, do you genuinely believe homosexuality and pedophilia go hand in hand ?

No just blabbaling cos of bored 

[Paul]

I think that's what they teach in Russian schools. Or better "taught" because they are not allowed to mention it anymore.

[Vovka]

all due to the fact that in my high school times there were no Putin 

[Xant]

I'm not a walking encyclopedia

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zis in camps were conscious of doing evil stuff ?

Humanity in general has a pretty damn common, evolved, value system. Altruism was a fitness advantage.

When people do "evil" shit, that is because they're taught, coerced and brainwashed to do it. Or they're just sociopaths.

[Grumpy_Nic]

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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Humanity in general has a pretty damn common, evolved, value system. Altruism was a fitness advantage.

When people do "evil" shit, that is because they're taught, coerced and brainwashed to do it. Or they're just sociopaths.

Brainwashed is such a negative word... also, the only reason people do "good" shit is that they were taught, coerced, or brainwashed into doing it.

[Kafein]

Humanity in general has a pretty damn common, evolved, value system. Altruism was a fitness advantage.

When people do "evil" shit, that is because they're taught, coerced and brainwashed to do it. Or they're just sociopaths.

General altruism has a fitness advantage and many benelovent actions are rewarded by euphoric biological reactions, but things are more complicated than that. One of the biggest problems is that we are talking about altruism with humans, and one can very well manipulate people into changing their idea of what an human is, or who isn't actually human.

[Xant]

and one can very well manipulate people into changing their idea of what an human is, or who isn't actually human.

Yes, well, is that not exactly what I said?

When people do "evil" shit, that is because they're taught, coerced and brainwashed to do it.