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Offline Xant

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #300 on: September 08, 2013, 04:27:17 pm »
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People die and lives get ruined, what's the use of calling out differences?

Would you stop your needless, endless nitpicking for once?
Uh, the use of calling out differences is that it's different. Y'know, as in... different.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #301 on: September 08, 2013, 04:29:26 pm »
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Uh, the use of calling out differences is that it's different. Y'know, as in... different.

You are hopeless in this regard.

See the first possible occasion, then start nitpicking like it's fuel for your living or something. yawn.

The point in hypocrite was, that they clearly endorse and use weaponry that causes harm in ways like chemical warfare, yet they point fingers at others doing it and make them look like "war criminals". Is it hard to understand or what.

Defoliant.. so what? It's still a toxic chemical, and caused mutations.
Depleted uranium increased cancer and symptoms insanely in areas it was used.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #302 on: September 08, 2013, 04:36:46 pm »
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You are hopeless in this regard.

See the first possible occasion, then start nitpicking like it's fuel for your living or something. yawn.

The point in hypocrite was, that they clearly endorse and use weaponry that causes harm in ways like chemical warfare, yet they point fingers at others doing it and make them look like "war criminals". Is it hard to understand or what.
Yes, when it comes to logic, I'm hopeless in trying to suppress it. Of course you'd call it nitpicking when it undermines your entire retarded statement.

As said, Agent Orange was used as a defoliant. Did it end up killing people? Yes, but that wasn't intended nor was it known it would, or they wouldn't have sent in their own soldiers unprotected afterwards. And again, it was war. Assad is using it on his own citizens.

Using napalm doesn't count as "chemical warfare." Fire that's somewhat harder to put out isn't exactly something that's in the same category as real chemical warfare.

So what the US has done is used a defoliant in a war because they had serious problems with guerrillas hiding in the jungles... and Assad uses chemical weapons meant to kill people on his own unarmed citizens.

Not to mention that the current US government is not the same one that ordered the use of Agent Orange.... in fact, this is the most important point. They are not even the same people.

Hypocrites? Hardly.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #303 on: September 08, 2013, 04:38:18 pm »
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Oh, here it goes again.

So you defend the US leadership now, that's what your so called "logic" dictates?

Entertain me some more with your retarded statements, please.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #304 on: September 08, 2013, 04:44:39 pm »
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Oh, here it goes again.

So you defend the US leadership now, that's what your so called "logic" dictates?

Entertain me some more with your retarded statements, please.
You couldn't find any counter-arguments so you accuse me of "defending the US leadership"? Er, what? How is that even relevant? Say I did defend the US leadership, that wouldn't make what I said any more or less true. Incidentally, I'm not the eternal white knight of the US government, and think they shouldn't get involved in Syria. But that doesn't mean I endorse any and all accusations made against them that make zero sense.

You need to work on your straw man arguments.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #305 on: September 08, 2013, 04:46:07 pm »
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Why is anyone even still bothering with Xant.

All he does is being the Devils advocat when ever he sees fit. I wonder if he even has an own opinion.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #306 on: September 08, 2013, 04:46:40 pm »
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Tryharding a bit too much, I see.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #307 on: September 08, 2013, 04:52:43 pm »
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Why is anyone even still bothering with Xant.

All he does is being the Devils advocat when ever he sees fit. I wonder if he even has an own opinion.
If by devil's advocate you mean I don't blindly support all the arguments that back up "my side", then quite.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #308 on: September 08, 2013, 04:53:46 pm »
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Trolls never have an own opinion.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #309 on: September 08, 2013, 04:55:24 pm »
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #310 on: September 08, 2013, 07:33:06 pm »
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If by devil's advocate you mean I don't blindly support all the arguments that back up "my side", then quite.

http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Arguments_as_soldiers

Preach on Xant. We know a fellow Redneck when we see one  :wink:
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #311 on: September 08, 2013, 08:11:18 pm »
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #312 on: September 08, 2013, 08:22:02 pm »
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Preach on Xant. We know a fellow Redneck when we see one  :wink:
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #313 on: September 08, 2013, 09:16:10 pm »
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It's >hundreds of billions of dollars in military assets and technology. Unfortunately predator drones and aircraft and missiles and aircraft carriers and military bases all over the world and power projection aren't "illusions", as much as you'd like to think they are.

True, but that still doesn't tell me who precisely is powerful.

After all, coups are more often than not won by palace guards and the like, because nobody bloody cares (does Catherine the Great ring a bell ?). Does that make the guard commander more powerful than the king ?

Btw Xant likes to take potshots at arguments, but not really to formulate new ones. Also he does make a point about the US government not being the same, although the people that elected them is more or less the same as a whole.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #314 on: September 08, 2013, 10:18:36 pm »
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Btw Xant likes to take potshots at arguments, but not really to formulate new ones. Also he does make a point about the US government not being the same, although the people that elected them is more or less the same as a whole.
1) Since US government is not the same, how is it hypocrisy from them to be shocked an appalled at chemical warfare, even if a previous government had done it?
2) You're saying the voters are "more or less the same as a whole" as almost fifty years ago? Let's see some evidence, then.
3) Americans are against military intervention in Syria according to pretty much all the polls.
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