To our fellow muricans

[AntiBlitz]

wow didnt you reach 19th century yet? still in middle ages where you needed to defend your own house yourself? How stupid that is.

Castle Doctrine

I hope you enjoy your monthly school shootings then.

i hope you enjoy living in poverty

[Panos_]

I highly doubt that America is in a better economical situation than Greece.

[Miwiw]

Castle Doctrine

But if no one has a gun, wouldn't that be far better 'cause there wouldn't be any need to defend yourself actually?

In Germany we have rather rarely some kind of "massacre" where guns are used compared to the US. And if, the guy did not buy the weapon in some random shop but rather got it by his father who maybe is a hunter in his free time. I actually never saw a gun myself in real life and I'm 23 years old.

[AntiBlitz]

But if no one has a gun, wouldn't that be far better 'cause there wouldn't be any need to defend yourself actually?

In Germany we have rather rarely some kind of "massacre" where guns are used compared to the US. And if, the guy did not buy the weapon in some random shop but rather got it by his father who maybe is a hunter in his free time. I actually never saw a gun myself in real life and I'm 23 years old.

cultural differences, i was introduced to firearms at around 7 y/o, though the man may not have a gun, wouldnt you like one when he comes into your home with a knife/bat/sword/something to kill you.

[Molly]

So i think im about done with this thread, was a good run, near 14 pages.  Its quite clear, that our views in the United States, and your views in Europe are near Extremist in proportion and we will not see "eye to eye", and this is evident from every post made. 

The only thing that can be said is whats obvious; We will continue doing what we need to do for our country for the benefit of ourselves, if you dont like it well too fucking bad, because America dont give two shits about your 2nd rate countries opinion and we are doing it anyway. 

As for the whole no ocean thing, all of europe doesnt have firearms, nearly every american in the country owns atleast one, myself owning nearly 40.  I in my own respect can field a small army with the amount of firearms and ammunition, and there are many like me.  So not only do we have an army to fight back but the minutemen rising from the homes to fight for FREEDOM, AMERICA FUCK YAAA!  This is evident on why countries like France could not fight back after occupation, having to resort to scavenging and looting firearms to make uprisings.

lol you actually are some inbred redneck

[Clockworkkiller]

oh boy, this thread is turning into a gun control debate, but with added europeans most of whom have never seen a firearm in their lives.

im just gonna back up now, and keep myself from going into rant mode.

[Molly]

oh boy, this thread is turning into a gun control debate, but with added europeans most of whom have never seen a firearm in their lives.

im just gonna back up now, and keep myself from going into rant mode.

Everyone has seen a firearm and what they can do. Maybe for most it was just the evening news. That's actually the scary part.

[Panos_]

oh boy, this thread is turning into a gun control debate, but with added europeans most of whom have never seen a firearm in their lives.

im just gonna back up now, and keep myself from going into rant mode.

you moron, I was 5 years in the military..

[Tibe]

oh boy, this thread is turning into a gun control debate, but with added europeans most of whom have never seen a firearm in their lives.

im just gonna back up now, and keep myself from going into rant mode.

And how is that bad exactly? This just proves that we arent so retarded and careless.

Some guy just gloted here how awesome he is for owning fuckton of firearms. Thats nice. The shit part is that if you can own a arsenal of firearms, so can your neighbours*. You may never know when one of them might loose wife or job or something and turn temporarly insane and shoot the entire neighbourhood*.

And before you say its superrare, id like to tell you its really not.

[AntiBlitz]

And how is that bad exactly? This just proves that we arent so retarded and careless.

What does this have to do with anything?  What does your country not holding faith in you have anything to do with carelessness?


Some guy just gloted here how awesome he is for owning fuckton of firearms. Thats nice. The shit part is that if you can own a arsenal of firearms, so can your neibhours. You may never know when one of them might loose wife or job or something and turn temporarly insane and shoot the entire neibhourhood.

There is nothing wrong with owning weapons when people are safe with them.  Adding extreme situations of "what if" is not a way to win arguments...

And before you say its superrare, id like to tell you its really not.

It really is

[Paul]

One of the few things Panos and I have in common is probably that we both still can disassemble and put back together a G3 with eyes closed(it's retardingly simple tho). Oh well, at least I got out before I became an ideological total. But man, 5 years . No chance.

[Panos_]

One of the few things Panos and I have in common is probably that we both can disassemble and put back together a G3 with eyes closed. Oh well, at least I got out before I became an ideological total. But man, 5 years . No chance.

Sadly I never touched a G3, special units use M16`s here.

I stayed on the military for 5 years because of the free education and the benefits, ex military men, get a 50% discount on all Greek private universities, also while I was serving, I got my english diploma, my pc diploma (ECDL) , professional driver's licence, bike licence and a lot more things.

And besides, when I joined I was 17, and at that time I had a lot of troubles at home, and the military was the only solution for me.

Had fun to be honest, made good solid friends and gained a lot of experience that made me thick to difficulties.

[Tibe]

Its not about not having faith. Its common sense. Why would you premit your citizens things which generally only purpose is to kill another man. Why not just go ahead and legalize meth. Same logic isnt it. There is nothing wrong with snorting a lot of crack up your nose as long as you are careful with it isnt it? What ifs is not proper form of argumentation.

And its really not rare. You have an insano shooting someone every week not to mention the deathtoll in those "bad neibhourhoods" that dont even reach the news. And you really are sounding like a redneck. And I think its not even the "what ifs..." that are the argument winners anymore good sir. Its already the what has'sssss.....

[AntiBlitz]

Its not about not having faith. Its common sense. Why would you premit your citizens things which generally only purpose is to kill another man. Why not just go ahead and legalize meth. Same logic isnt it. There is nothing wrong with snorting a lot of crack up your nose as long as you are careful with it isnt it? What ifs is not proper form of argumentation.

welp if this is your argument then take all the kitchen utensils out of your house, turn in your car, oh and any household cleaners you may own.  The government stated these arent safe and are known to harm people. 


And its really not rare. You have an insano shooting someone every week not to mention the deathtoll in those "bad neibhourhoods" that dont even reach the news. And you really are sounding like a redneck. And I think its not even the "what ifs..." that are the argument winners anymore good sir. Its already the what has'sssss.....

Yes it is quite rare, welcome to what the news does, when do you see the news reporting on how the local law enforcement agency responded to 200 calls for service that day, which 200 of them were not shootings.  Yet one shooting occurs out of the 320 million people in the U.S creating (guessing) 100,000 calls for service (just life or property damage) and all of a sudden that is the main problem, the guns, not the thefts or drugs,  Yep was the guns fault.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0308.pdf

[AntiBlitz]

Anyways done with this thread, added more folks to the list of "bad at arguing", feel free to continue commenting, im no longer taking part as the thread derailed into a who is better U.S.A or Europe thread in which we are out numbered.