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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #180 on: September 05, 2013, 12:24:55 am »
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eh we need china for producing cheap stuff.

and rice!

I get my rice from Texas, and my cheap stuff from blind people.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #181 on: September 05, 2013, 12:29:22 am »
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eh we need china for producing cheap stuff.


Don't worry, with this plan, the unemployment rate in Mexico will disappear!
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #182 on: September 05, 2013, 02:50:26 am »
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Furthermore, reading some of the comments here, some people may think that military intervention "HAS to be done" "because we have all these missiles" "and we are the ONLY one who can HELP", and "EU won't do anything" -- come on! when has bombing ever fed hungry people and provided medical and moral aid? fuck, what has this world come to. haven't you/we learned from the last war(s) for "humanitarian causes"?

the only sensible thing would be to stop sending weapons and financial to those "rebels" (who ever those traders are, all this reeks of some 3-letter intel agency) and start aiding those people, and I mean everyone, not just one side. all their infrastructure is gone, what do you expect them to do? eat rubble? honestly, I can see how people get mad at each other, over the most ridiculous stuff, be it religion or funny hats (nationalities) IF they are hungry, cold, without a bed or roof, and being shot at. not to mention the fear of gas ofc., but that came afterwards. without this practical help, the whole situation will get out of control, which it already is, but you know what I mean. more people dying and fleeing and such. our lousy German officials want to close the gates already, because of all the refugees -- not that I support rejecting them, but that's just one of the effects of a failing country.

but I'm not delusional, mark my words, we will see worse shit than that when some side down there, or somewhere, not mentioning names, finally gets shaky hands and the whole situation escalates. I'm still wondering though what's the point of all of this. is it just irans oil? or is it fear and shock therapy for the world to cry for another strong führer? I guess I'm giving you too many hints now, but yeah, that's what I think.


Cant feed anyone when they are all dead........you must be one of those euro "scholars", wants peace and the whole likes.  Hey hows about this, ill myself pay for a round trip to Syria, ill even give you a few loaves of bread, i want you to feed as many of them as you can.  Dont worry about the massive fuel bombs, the gas, or the tanks or rockets rolling through the streets.  Just keep handing out those bread loaves. 

You do know we attempted to send relief aid to civilians in Afghanistan by air crates and trucks which ended up being stolen by the insurgents......repeatedly, but hey then again, like i said, ill ship you over no problem.

Evidence:
http://www.irinnews.org/report/72450/afghanistan-food-aid-trucks-come-under-increasing-attacks

Proof of why im not supplying you with a truck, and only arm fulls of bread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMX3BicGcGc

I dont understand how you cannot see that one side must always win in a revolution, there will not be a "hey lets call it even and we will just go back to our homes like nothing ever happened".  And in this case if we can make it easier for one side to win, to remove someone who is causing harm to the public, who arent fighting, then why not.


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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #183 on: September 05, 2013, 04:59:45 am »
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Panos feeels the same as i do. a civil war is only ever corrupted by foreign intervention. If another country becomes involved no-body 'wins'.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #184 on: September 05, 2013, 05:13:41 am »
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Panos feeels the same as i do. a civil war is only ever corrupted by foreign intervention. If another country becomes involved no-body 'wins'.


The United States "won" rather soundly when the French helped escort and deport the English gentlemen out of the country.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #185 on: September 05, 2013, 05:32:08 am »
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The United States "won" rather soundly when the French helped escort and deport the English gentlemen out of the country.

Tears, DONT YOU DARE BRING HISTORY INTO THIS THREAD, THESE SO CALLED "SCHOLARS" ARE ART MAJORS, NOT HISTORY.........THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT THOUGHT AND HOW INTELLECTUAL ONE CAN BE, NOT HOW ACCURATE HISTORY IS AND HOW IT REPEATS ITSELF!

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #186 on: September 05, 2013, 06:35:03 am »
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Cant feed anyone when they are all dead........you must be one of those euro "scholars", wants peace and the whole likes.  Hey hows about this, ill myself pay for a round trip to Syria, ill even give you a few loaves of bread, i want you to feed as many of them as you can.  Dont worry about the massive fuel bombs, the gas, or the tanks or rockets rolling through the streets.  Just keep handing out those bread loaves. 

You do know we attempted to send relief aid to civilians in Afghanistan by air crates and trucks which ended up being stolen by the insurgents......repeatedly, but hey then again, like i said, ill ship you over no problem.

Evidence:
http://www.irinnews.org/report/72450/afghanistan-food-aid-trucks-come-under-increasing-attacks

Proof of why im not supplying you with a truck, and only arm fulls of bread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMX3BicGcGc

I don't understand how you cannot see that one side must always win in a revolution, there will not be a "hey lets call it even and we will just go back to our homes like nothing ever happened".  And in this case if we can make it easier for one side to win, to remove someone who is causing harm to the public, who aren't fighting, then why not.

The problem is, when a foreign intervention happens, no-one wins. I can understand that the people want to help those are in need. And I can understand seeing or hearing about people dying everyday may be worrisome for many. However, when you look to our recent history, any and all interventions failed miserably.

With UN SC Resolution 794, in 1992, United States-led United Nations Peacekeeping Forces were deployed to Somalia, in order to end the Civil War and put a stop to reign of warlords that had so much power with so limited liability. Somalian government, after the death of their president, in 1991, had little to no power to stop those paramilitary organisations. In a nutshell, Somalia was in chaos. So, like I said in the first line, United States-led forces went to Somalia. First, as unarmed military observers. However, later on, there were small and middle scale battles between warlords and United States (and US-led) forces. In 1995, United States and United Nations withdrawn from Somalia. With nothing actually accomplished, other then tax-payers money, being spent, and soldiers, dying.

Operation Enduring Freedom. Damn. I love that name. So much to offer. From 2001 to now, thousands and thousands had died. And for what? To take Taliban down from Afghani Government? To end terrorism? To end the slaughter of many, and to end injustice? Perhaps to successfully dismantle al-Qaeda and Taliban? Yeh, Taliban was successfully overthrown for like... couple of years, where they regrouped and turned back to terrorism.

Operation Iraqi Freedom. Yay. An another Operation ending with Freedom. Successfully overthrowing Saddam Hussein and... destabilizing the whole damn country. With the reason of the war, found out to be false. Over 20 thousand dead and more then 100 thousand injured from Coalition-side. Adding to that nearly thirty thousand dead and forty thousand wounded from the Iraqi-side. Lets not forget the civilian deaths. According to Iraq Body Count project, at least 110 000 civilians are killed. Lancet survey, however, implies that the actual body count is more then 600 000. Cult wars too. But hey. Saddam is overthrown.

Sure. Lets repeat the history over and over again.

What I find most hilarious once more is your way of thinking. You sure don't have to have PhD to learn, research and discuss about politics, economics or social issues. You just have to have a brain and an ability to think logically, with all the data that could be provided.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #187 on: September 05, 2013, 07:58:22 am »
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In a hypothetical scenario where the US and Nazi Germany are neighbours without an ocean in 1940, I would put my money on Nazi Germany shitkicking the US.

lmao

You realize France isn't even the size of fucking Texas? On top of producing more war material (once they got going, and it wouldn't take long in case of invasion) than basically the entire Allied forces combined over all of WW2. The GDP of USA was also more than all of the Axis and Allied powers combined during the era.

I know that Russia basically solo'd Germany in WW2 (with lend-lease, a MASSIVE help, only reason they had mechanized infantry at all for their famous offensives), but America was just as much of a juggernaut as Soviet Russia, and much stronger in many ways. Shit on USA all you want (its a pretty awful country as far as international policy goes) but when we aren't completely dysfunctional like we are now, its projected power due to our population, land, economy, navy, army, air force, and cutting-edge technology (even back then) basically shits on all of the world.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #188 on: September 05, 2013, 09:08:26 am »
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lmao

You realize France isn't even the size of fucking Texas? On top of producing more war material (once they got going, and it wouldn't take long in case of invasion) than basically the entire Allied forces combined over all of WW2. The GDP of USA was also more than all of the Axis and Allied powers combined during the era.

I know that Russia basically solo'd Germany in WW2 (with lend-lease, a MASSIVE help, only reason they had mechanized infantry at all for their famous offensives), but America was just as much of a juggernaut as Soviet Russia, and much stronger in many ways. Shit on USA all you want (its a pretty awful country as far as international policy goes) but when we aren't completely dysfunctional like we are now, its projected power due to our population, land, economy, navy, army, air force, and cutting-edge technology (even back then) basically shits on all of the world.

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Population of USA 1940: 132,164,569, spread out over the large territory of US, a lot in small, rural communities
Population of Germany 1940: 69 838 000, highly urbanised, prepared for war.

Germany annexes Austria right before war, with a population of 6 705 000

Germany is highly militarised, with very powerful industry and military technology and doctrine years ahead of anyone else.

Germany makes the first move.

Think again.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #189 on: September 05, 2013, 09:38:48 am »
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Not to mention that the theoretical approach stated "with no Ocean" between them which means war on American soil. Considering the "BOOHOOO" after "only" 3k people died on 9/11, a real territorial war on US soil... yea, go figure.

It's theory anyway and actually a rather stupid discussion, at least I think it is. It all went down decades ago already, remember? :wink:
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« Reply #190 on: September 05, 2013, 10:28:34 am »
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #191 on: September 05, 2013, 02:12:26 pm »
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you must be one of those euro "scholars", wants peace and the whole likes.
euro what? is that supposed to be an insult? you guys have funny customs. but surely I would rather have peace, ain't that what we all want or else we wouldn't have these conversations.
stop distracting from the issue. name calling doesn't help the conversation and will not have any notable effect.

Cant feed anyone when they are all dead........you must be one of those euro "scholars", wants peace and the whole likes.  Hey hows about this, ill myself pay for a round trip to Syria, ill even give you a few loaves of bread, i want you to feed as many of them as you can.  Dont worry about the massive fuel bombs, the gas, or the tanks or rockets rolling through the streets.  Just keep handing out those bread loaves.
Aight, let me rephrase my point for you: a people whose basic needs are not met, will go nuts. (needs are: food, shelter, healthcare, as well as social and cultural/religious freedom) this counts for people living in a dictatorship, as well as democratic countries or any other. BUT once they go nuts, you do NOT introduce weapons and other equipment to either side, because that is creating a terrible outcome, that no-one can predict and will probably be terrorism and chaos and slaughter of innocent people. this is all I wanted to imply.
without weapons (and without foreign help) those uprising people would become more creative and will possibly do a peaceful revolution as seen in Iran some decades ago (the one with Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini replacing the US-puppet Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi wikipedia: Iranian Revolution. not saying that Ayatllah Khomeini was the best choice, but at least they didn't see their whole country up in flames.
another example is East Germany and the peaceful events that led to opening the wall. still not very smart, as we now have McDonalds all over the place ... but at least nobody died.

right now the syrian rebels seem to have all these weapons and whatnot, and the situation IS out of control. if your secret agency wouldn't sell the weapons to them they would run out of ammunition sooner or later and Assad could leave the country in peace (and shame, hopefully).

as I see it, the US leadership is trying to wage a war to distract from the US' other problems, and it is basically what makes your economy go, sadly. the military-industrial-complex wants to have a reason to go to war, someone said it before. and I do not blame your people when I say this, so don't be offended. this media circus right now is a fucking scam to send some young people to die for big companies to sell some weapons - and for the US-american empire to expand it's influence. this process is known and a recurring pattern. war is helping no-body but those powers.
read John Perkins: "The Secret History of the American Empire", or "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" (same guy) to know what's going on.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #192 on: September 05, 2013, 02:43:50 pm »
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So i think im about done with this thread, was a good run, near 14 pages.  Its quite clear, that our views in the United States, and your views in Europe are near Extremist in proportion and we will not see "eye to eye", and this is evident from every post made. 

The only thing that can be said is whats obvious; We will continue doing what we need to do for our country for the benefit of ourselves, if you dont like it well too fucking bad, because America dont give two shits about your 2nd rate countries opinion and we are doing it anyway. 

As for the whole no ocean thing, all of europe doesnt have firearms, nearly every american in the country owns atleast one, myself owning nearly 40.  I in my own respect can field a small army with the amount of firearms and ammunition, and there are many like me.  So not only do we have an army to fight back but the minutemen rising from the homes to fight for FREEDOM, AMERICA FUCK YAAA!  This is evident on why countries like France could not fight back after occupation, having to resort to scavenging and looting firearms to make uprisings.

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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #193 on: September 05, 2013, 02:48:26 pm »
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As for the whole no ocean thing, all of europe doesnt have firearms, nearly every american in the country owns atleast one, myself owning nearly 40.  I in my own respect can field a small army with the amount of firearms and ammunition, and there are many like me.  So not only do we have an army to fight back but the minutemen rising from the homes to fight for FREEDOM, AMERICA FUCK YAAA!  This is evident on why countries like France could not fight back after occupation, having to resort to scavenging and looting firearms to make uprisings.

wow didnt you reach 19th century yet? still in middle ages where you needed to defend your own house yourself? How stupid that is.
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Re: To our fellow muricans
« Reply #194 on: September 05, 2013, 02:50:41 pm »
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As for the whole no ocean thing, all of europe doesnt have firearms, nearly every american in the country owns atleast one, myself owning nearly 40.  I in my own respect can field a small army with the amount of firearms and ammunition, and there are many like me.  So not only do we have an army to fight back but the minutemen rising from the homes to fight for FREEDOM, AMERICA FUCK YAAA!  This is evident on why countries like France could not fight back after occupation, having to resort to scavenging and looting firearms to make uprisings.

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