To our fellow muricans

[LordBerenger]

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[Jarold]

Maybe it's about time that we turn it around and the world groups up and invades the US to stop that madness. After all they enjoyed all the wars, didn't they. Maybe wars would stop in general then without the US having any power.

I'd like to see them try! Nuke em all Murica murica murica murica fuckerng MURICA!!

[Christo]

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[Kalam]

I've given this some thought, after reading your many posts. Here's my current (madcap) proposal- if I were mind controlling Congress and the Obama Administration:

 Offer green cards to everyone with legit medical professions, R&D engineers, Chemists, Aerospace Engineers, Subsea Engineers, and Nano Engineers. Accept journalists, writers, musicians, and other artists under refugee status to developing countries. Make an effort to find the green card folks jobs. Make sure we subtly split them up if we can, so that we don't get them making a 'Little Syria' in Houston or Seattle or something. ASSIMILATE.

Leave Syria itself alone, unless one of the identifiable factions within starts fucking with another country.

Like Berenger suggested, pass the military buck to China. They've already sent troops to Mali, maybe they can start to help 'police' the world.

[Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo]

Sorry, I have to.

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[Sir_Hans]

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War is what we do, aint no stopping it! Yee-haw! 

[pingpong]

After reading this thread im happy for humanitys sake, that you guys chose to spend your time in crpg instead of pursuing a career in politics.

[Kalam]

After reading this thread im happy for humanitys sake, that you guys chose to spend your time in crpg instead of pursuing a career in politics.

Are you sure no one here is?

[Tibe]

I was strongly against interfering when the discussions about it started. But now I think someone should do the opposite. What made my opinion change was the way Assad started gloating with smug arrogance how awesome he is cause the USA hasnt attacked them yet. And how he has defeated USA and how he is clearly going to win the civilwar, which is multible victories at once for him. I dont really care who insults USA, but it quite nicely shows what kind of a person Assad really is. His country and his people were pretty close to getting bombed and he already starts his loud victorydance. Getting the feeling he wants a war to show how awesome he is and that he does not care for his peoples lives.

[Overdriven]

Assad is actually quite interesting. He was an eye doctor in the UK ffs. Heck he even has a British born wife (although Syrian parents). Apparently his brother is a nasty piece of work and his uncle was as well. All interviewers say he is a very charming guy. It wouldn't surprise me if he was just the figurehead of a very nasty family/organisation without actually having much say himself.

well I only read a little bit about the conflict but I see some big misconceptions in this thread, syria doesn't actually produce very much crude oil at all. if "gas" prices go up its simply because of the location of syria and fear/speculation the conflict could spread to countries which are big crude oil producers.

so people playing the "doing it for oil" card are simply uninformed.

Pretty much this. Most of the interviews I've heard with various economists say it's market psychology that causes an increase in oil price, mostly because of how unstable the middle east is as a whole and the potential for other middle-eastern countries to get involved, the ones that do produce oil that is, but it's not related to Syria as an oil producer.

[Angantyr]

I can recommend Robert Fisk's viewpoint for the Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iran-not-syria-is-the-wests-real-target-8789506.html

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

Its such a fucking shit show.

On the one hand, the sentiment ideas behind the "world police" attitude have some merit. Our shitty ass world needs policing. People need stronger people with guns on hand to threaten them with punishment on the off chance that they do something fucked up. Most countries can police themselves. What happens when somebody does something terrible, and there are no cops? Somebody's got to hit a bitch.

On the other hand, what does police action overseas actually do? Can it actually work without terrible consequences? Not if Iraq and Afghanistan are anything to judge by. Surely there is a successful precedent somewhere in history, but I can't be assed to do the go ogling.

Half-assedly shooting Tomahawk missiles at random targets won't solve anything in Syria.

Really, I want to see more convincing evidence than, "Well, who else woulda done it?"

I don't think we should get involved, unless enough evidence can be gathered to convict Assad of wrong doing, beyond any reasonable doubt. Then I'd be down for making an effort to kill or capture him, with international support. Until the world can be convinced of his badness, he's fine.

[Xant]

I hope USA intervenes in Syria. The longer they're officially "at war", the better. Now that Afghanistan is winding down too, this would be the perfect time to start another conflict.

[Casimir]

So why is discussion like this so repressed.

It is so good to see other peoples views on such an interesting issue.

[Lt_Anders]

At least we can have a discussion. The moment we stop discussing, and arguing actions of countries, we doom ourselves to problems.