why do native players hate crpg?

[Clockworkkiller]

how come whenever native players hear crpg mentioned, they go on a hate filled rant about how crpg sucks and how crpg players suck?

its kinda funny, i play native every now and then, and i constantly find myself at the top of the scoreboard. hell, once i steamrolled a server with a 1h and shield, wearing cloth armor no helm, never once did i raise my shield that game.

dont get me wrong, there are some really great native players, mainly the elite duelists running round in cloth with bastard swords and scimmys (although both are very OP weapons in native) but the majoritiy of players dont even know how to block! and those that do are ethier very bad at it or suck at every other aspect of melee. and dont even get me started on the insanely stupid macros, hacks and shit alot of native players do.
they say crpgers suck, yet most, if not all, crpg players, would wreck a native player anyday

are they mad that crpg is what multiplayer should have been for native? becuase we have a large variation of builds and playstyles, huge selection of weapons and gear, strat and generally better combat?

[CrazyCracka420]

I'm pretty sure it's just because they never were able to overcome the peasant stage.  Or the idea of trying to compete with people who've had a month, or two months, or 6 months, or a year, or two years, or now 3 years head start on building their characters and collecting gear, is just too large of an obstacle for them to tackle. 

Others think that people are good in crpg mainly because they have better characters and gear than other people, not because they are better players.  They think native is more evenly matched because everyone's "on the same page".

I don't like the native equipment buying, or the fact that the classes and factions are so totally different.  Depending on what faction you are on, really makes a difference in how well you and your team can do that map.  It affects your skills/stats, it affects what weapons and equipment you can buy, and what classes you have available to you.  I like crpg because everyone starts out the same, and gets to customize their character the way they want.

[Osiris]

Well a lot of native players DO play crpg and are very very good at it

Some native players hate it but most don't seem to. and if your rolling a server with ease maybe your not on a good battle server esp if people run around in cloth with bastard swords <3


I hear just as many anti native comments on crpg as i ever do on native <3

[Adamar]

Because cRPG is a grinding fest.

[DrTaco]

how come whenever crpg players hear native mentioned, they go on a hate filled rant about how native sucks and how native players suck?

its kinda funny, i play crpg every now and then, and i constantly find myself at the top of the scoreboard. hell, once i steamrolled a server with a 1h and shield, wearing cloth armor no helm, never once did i raise my shield that game.

dont get me wrong, there are some really great crpg players, mainly the elite duelists running round in cloth tin cans with bastard swords and scimmys [INSERT "OP" WEAPON HERE) and [INSERT "OP" WEAPON HERE) (although both are very OP weapons in crpg) but the majoritiy majority of players dontdon't even know how to block! and those that do are ethiereither very bad at it or suck at every other aspect of melee. and dont don't even get me started on the insanely stupid macros, hacks and shit alot a lot of crpg players do.
they say nativers(?) suck, yet most, if not all, native players, would wreck a crpg player anyday any day.

are they mad that native is what multiplayer should have been for native? becuasebecause we have a large variation of builds and playstyles play styles, huge selection of weapons and gear, strat strategies and generally better combat?

See what I did there?

You want to know why Native (And a fair bit of the entirety of the Taleworlds community) hates us? I have no idea. It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that shit like this is posted every once in a while.

Maybe they just don't like the system that Crpg set up like Crazy said.

[Prpavi]

Do they really hate cRPG or is it just another online myth?

It's the same game with tweaked gameplay and balance, what is there to hate? Maybe it doesn't suit everybodys style but doubt theres real hate or animosity between the two communities. Maybe I'm wrong there are quite a few active Native players, maybe they can shed some light on the subject.

[DrTaco]

Well, ingame I tend to avoid any topics about Crpg because it always end in me going ragedragonflame mode on some poor soul, but the general consensus in the Taleworlds community forum is that Crpg is a home to a lot of dicks.

[wayyyyyne]

their disdain towards cRPG and its players probably stems from them wanking over the thought of having kept it real. They were there first and no mod that turned their beloved elitist niche game into a generic "collect X press button to win" grind MMROPG will ever change that.

[Nehvar]

cRPG can sometimes feel like an endurance test for misery.  That could be what routs a lot of native players.  I've never played native though so I can only speculate.

[Tom Cruise]

Because the my old friendchers dont have pin points accuracy laser targeting reticles like in native.

[Aderyn]

I can see why they would dislike c-rpg... mechanics changing pretty often, frequent rebalancing and getting screwed over regularly if you play strat (by glitches)

[Elindor]

...Crpg is a home to a lot of dicks.

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On a different note...I think huseby might be right in some ways - they start out as peasants and if they are experienced native players they are probably like "F this, im better than this guy he just has better gear" (although we know that that is only so important if someone is truly skilled), and if they are not experienced native players they probably just notice that they generally do better in native than in crpg because *OVERALL* native has a lower average skill level and is not quite so intensely competitive (although the range in it is definitely rage inducing). 

[dreadnok]

native is easy as fuck to me. everyone is the same speed

[Elindor]

native is easy as fuck to me. everyone is the same speed

^  My favorite cRPG dick.

[Kalam]

Unless you're great at shifting gears, playing one or the other too much kind of makes you suck (granted, this only carries on to top level duels when you migrate from cRPG to Native) at the other one. It's because the mechanics are pretty different, now. I know when cRPG first came out, it was the grind and the equipment/level differences that annoyed the Natives (I'm pretty sure most Native players came over to cRPG or played it for significant periods of time since then- I'm just referring to Native 'elitists' here) while now, the mechanical differences are probably what tick people off.

Speeds are different. Swings are different. Footwork is different. What you do to win is different. At the same time, it's still the same game, so if you play on reflex, you're going to develop reflexes that work in one mode and get you killed in the other. For that, cRPG is annoying to someone from Native.

People tend to place the blame for perceived failures elsewhere, and it's easy for newcomers to cRPG to blame the differences solely on the nature of individual stats, levels, and armor. It's easier to say 'I lost because you have a better equipment and build' rather than 'I lost because the game is different and I have to learn it'.