do devs even test before implementing?

[rufio]

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

Rondel + high ath = tincans dying in 2 hits.

I agree though before this new stab the sidesword was like a relic of a bygone time now everyone has one and its doing crazy damage like wtf? so now they have high speed, damage plus you get a shield? 1hers are the new ultra OP class?! 

[Rumblood]

There are 1 handers, then there are 1 handers + shields. They aren't the same thing and any issue with the combo needs to be dealt with on the shield side.

[Jarold]

This is a beta you know, this is how they test things.

[rufio]

ofc, i just want to know what the initial thought was behind this>? what pushed/triggered them to make this seemingly small change, that has great influence on the games ballance.

[Bjord]

[San]

How is it better than the 2h/pole stabs? I see a lot of whining but no suggestions. I personally haven't had a problem fighting against 1h stabbers, so please enlighten me. They're comparable to the 2h/pole stabs, but the overall usefulness is now primarily determined by the weapon stats, no more crappy animations.

[Kafein]

seireusly mediocre players are topping score and kd now, was this planned?

Tell me when seriously mediocre 2h players stop topping score and kd. This "great influence on game balance" is simply a considerable amount of people trying out stabbing with 1h because it sucked so much before. No matter if OP or not, there's going to be a lot of 1h around for a few days. Even when archers get nerfed there are suddenly slightly more archers because people like to see what's new. Current 1h stabs are not more OP as hell as any other stab, quit your whining.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

[Matey]

I have noticed a ton of people using 1h's now... I haven't noticed 1h's actually being that much better though. People are just trying out the new stab to see if 1h is better than it used to be, most will switch off to something else soon enough. Rather than complain about a large amount of 1h players... why not celebrate less archers? plus... if you are a big gay 2h kicking s key hero you should be getting way more kills with all these no reach 1h guys.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

I have noticed a ton of people using 1h's now... I haven't noticed 1h's actually being that much better though. People are just trying out the new stab to see if 1h is better than it used to be, most will switch off to something else soon enough. Rather than complain about a large amount of 1h players... why not celebrate less archers? plus... if you are a big gay 2h kicking s key hero you should be getting way more kills with all these no reach 1h guys.

I'm polearm player, now polearms are worse then bother 2hers and 1hers   

[Matey]

I'm polearm player, now polearms are worse then bother 2hers and 1hers   

tell that to the poledancers who still run around doing 360 jump instathrusts with their long spears at point blank while wrecking the shit out of 3 players in 3v1s frequently.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

tell that to the poledancers who still run around doing 360 jump instathrusts with their long spears at point blank while wrecking the shit out of 3 players in 3v1s frequently.

Longspears are just broken, even I can admit that. A 12ft pike that can stab you and do max damage when you're so close you can see down his throat? Is just fucking stupid. I wish all hits just bounced and did no damage if the tip doesn't touch you.

Proper polearms like the axes and what not still suck badly compared to 2hers and now 1hers :-/

[Malaclypse]

Consider the question your post is asking as well as the development team it's referring to and you'll have your answer.

[Tydeus]

This thread is truly hilarious. Actually, I shouldn't really confine that statement to just this thread, the change has really done a good job of showing who the more biased players are. It's one thing to dislike the animation changes(there are very good, legitimate reasons for doing so), but the arguments most people use... I just can't help from laughing at so many posts.

Proper polearms like the axes and what not still suck badly compared to 2hers and now 1hers :-/

Someone missed some patch notes.

• The polearm left(left-to-right) swing reaches its sweet spot nearly 10% faster than it used to and is now on par with the right(right-to-left) swing. (read: effectively 10% faster)
• The polearm overhead is able to connect with players over 20% faster than what it used to and is now on par with the 2h overhead.
• The polearm thrust animation was optimized to properly fit the thrust sweet spots the same way 2h has always been.