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Remove stunlock from pole-arms

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 12:11:00 pm »
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 12:13:58 pm »
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2011, 12:17:05 pm »
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Never experienced an impossible to block attack. How does it happen then?

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2011, 12:23:56 pm »
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For a brief time, like 1 second you can't block, thus the one that stunned you gets a free hit. It doesn't happen on all polearms, it feels like it's related to speed, I've seen it happen most on Warspear and Iron Staff, especially when used with an agi build.
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2011, 12:34:07 pm »
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For a brief time, like 1 second you can't block, thus the one that stunned you gets a free hit. It doesn't happen on all polearms, it feels like it's related to speed, I've seen it happen most on Warspear and Iron Staff, especially when used with an agi build.

I always managed to recover after the first warspear hit and block the next. If I didn't it was my error.

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2011, 12:43:38 pm »
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Doesn't it just apply to stabs? At least that's my experience. Also it is still possible to block the next attackfrom the polearmuser. The stun lasts for a long time but not long enough for the spearman to attack again. But any other enemies around you can easily attack you in that time and if they also have a polearms and stabs that means you can be stunlocked.

This works really well with pikemen for example. The first one stabs you and stunlocks you. During that the secound pikeman stabs and stunlocks you. By then, the first one has recovered and stabs you again. Rince repeat till the enemy is dead.

This is also a very good tactic if you got three pikemen. Once me and two clanmates went pike and stunlocked a tincan so that he not just couldn't block, he couldn't move at all. I call it "the machinegun" :D
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2011, 12:48:15 pm »
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I believe the stun is linked to damage in the same way crushthrough and knockdown are, so an attack held for 1/3-1/2 second will stun long enough to get a free attack (if you have enough agi and good footwork I suppose). I can't prove it, but I'm almost certain there have been times where I could not block the next attack from a polearm through no fault of my own.

I also remember someone saying it is hard coded into Warband, so it won't be removed until we get the WSE.

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2011, 02:31:00 pm »
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An agi user with an awlpike can pull off the stunlock pretty regularly, almost on every stab I think. There is around a second where you are unable to block, move or do anything after being stabbed. If you try to block the next stab before your character finishes being 'stunned' they will forget to put up the block in time, you have a window of a fraction of a second after the stun fully finishes to block successfully and so it is impossible against two polearm users.
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 07:48:00 pm »
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I vote no. High end polearms are slower than equivalent 2h.
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2011, 08:07:36 pm »
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 09:45:25 pm »
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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 10:25:29 pm »
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Wow Tsar, you are really a piece of work, you call ppl whiners and criers, and even make fancy pictures to that effect, when they point out fail game mechanics, then you start your own thread to try to change game features? What a total troll, (is that what it's called? I think so).

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2011, 11:09:26 pm »
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I remember cmpx saying on IRC polearm stun will never be removed. So I guess this thread is obsolete.

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2011, 12:00:30 am »
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Stun lock should be an algorithm based on the strength based attribute. So, if my char is super strong I actually have a chance of stunning my enemies. If weak, then its near impossible to preform. It would eliminate the agi spammers from wrapping in 4-8 hits in a row without any opportunity to block.

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Re: Remove stunlock from polearms possible??
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2011, 05:57:58 am »
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Stun lock should be an algorithm based on the strength based attribute. So, if my char is super strong I actually have a chance of stunning my enemies. If weak, then its near impossible to preform. It would eliminate the agi spammers from wrapping in 4-8 hits in a row without any opportunity to block.

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