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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2013, 04:57:37 pm »
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Pff, come on now, has anyone else pulled off a move like this without multiaccounts? I seem to recall some rather panicked communiqués... :lol:

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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2013, 05:22:17 pm »
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Looks like real exodus, but our people have also been seen during seasonal tours  8-)

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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2013, 07:35:50 pm »
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why i dont remember dat on map? ((
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2013, 10:41:21 pm »
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I think you were in NA at the time. :P
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2013, 01:43:44 am »
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If we get a rough date for the wipe then there is no reason not to burn through all of these troops.

Hopefully the next iteration of strat will shift the advantage away from defensive play, but i sincere doubt it.
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2013, 01:57:04 am »
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Yeah, it was a terrible idea to launch the round without implementing that stagnation mechanic. We'd spent ages talking about it as well.
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2013, 02:37:03 pm »
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Yeah, it was a terrible idea to launch the round without implementing that stagnation mechanic. We'd spent ages talking about it as well.

A lot of things got dropped that were discussed and on the to do list.  Having to repair walls after sieges using PP was another that there just wasn't time for in the end :(

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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2013, 02:51:44 pm »
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I blame Beta testers for failed strat 4   :P
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2013, 10:38:50 pm »
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I think i've tried my best to provoke aggression these past weeks/ month. Maybe a bit too much, since we can now hardly leave our fiefs  :oops:

Anyway, if the 8 uif'ish factions still want some action this round, they'll have to make it happen  :mrgreen:


If there are more beta-testers needed, i think there are plenty of interested veterans that want to help + have the insight to do so.

Think vovka, butan, harpag, hetman, some wolves, me, and the all the NA my old friends who seem to have had a more balanced strat 4.



For example the extend to which you can see/ control allies. In the wolves a tool was created for it, most greys think it should be allowed to controle eachother to some extend, crazycracka came with a suggestion on clanmates controlling afk-fiefs. Would be a shame if you didn't involve a bunch of players like that in balancing strat 5  :mrgreen:

And ofc vovka wants to prove he can do a better job being beta-tester for round 5  :P:
I blame Beta testers for failed strat 4   :P
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2013, 02:34:19 pm »
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Haboe, when it comes to engender inside us aggression against you, you assign yourself too much credit  :wink:  The truth is that you are quite sympathetic man, and all the hard work has done over last years by your old guard through disgusting and stupid swagger.

But it's now irrelevant. The problem is that you have almost 100 k army, but you're paralyzed and you even can't recapture a single shitty village.

Why is that? Despite fact that you are damn noobs, the main problem is with mechanics. On the one hand prevents us from conducting sensible economically attack, on the other hand a slight decrease in activity or interest among small parts of your players, prevents a complex logistical operation of counterattacking.

Main idea of involvement on the map largest possible number of players is beautiful in spirit, but it's utopia. Reality is very different. Level of complexity in strat combined with very limited free time of most of people, means that in practice, most decision on how to play, even in such a large faction like mine, taking only a few people, and in practice, only one. Let's face it. My clan is at present form due to power of  Hetman's vital energy. Everyone else are eager to look like their faction grows on the map, but only sometimes they do something useful, cos in fact, they are interested only in participating in battles, that's why we do lobbing for sensible and limited account sharing.

I suppose that if such a mechanism was existed from the beginning of the round, most of resources would have been used up to date and I'm convinced that my clan would disintegrate into several smaller groups, while arise a large number of completely new clans, based on an active leader and a group of casual players.

Instead of unreflecting accusations of cheating, better think how to help improve the game, cos now situation is totally shity, and any movement on the map depends mainly on us, which is boring and tiring.

Again mod is almost dead  :cry:
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2013, 09:40:52 pm »
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Haboe, when it comes to engender inside us aggression against you, you assign yourself too much credit  :wink:  The truth is that you are quite sympathetic man, and all the hard work has done over last years by your old guard through disgusting and stupid swagger.

But it's now irrelevant. The problem is that you have almost 100 k army, but you're paralyzed and you even can't recapture a single shitty village.

Why is that? Despite fact that you are damn noobs, the main problem is with mechanics. On the one hand prevents us from conducting sensible economically attack, on the other hand a slight decrease in activity or interest among small parts of your players, prevents a complex logistical operation of counterattacking.

Main idea of involvement on the map largest possible number of players is beautiful in spirit, but it's utopia. Reality is very different. Level of complexity in strat combined with very limited free time of most of people, means that in practice, most decision on how to play, even in such a large faction like mine, taking only a few people, and in practice, only one. Let's face it. My clan is at present form due to power of  Hetman's vital energy. Everyone else are eager to look like their faction grows on the map, but only sometimes they do something useful, cos in fact, they are interested only in participating in battles, that's why we do lobbing for sensible and limited account sharing.

I suppose that if such a mechanism was existed from the beginning of the round, most of resources would have been used up to date and I'm convinced that my clan would disintegrate into several smaller groups, while arise a large number of completely new clans, based on an active leader and a group of casual players.

Instead of unreflecting accusations of cheating, better think how to help improve the game, cos now situation is totally shity, and any movement on the map depends mainly on us, which is boring and tiring.

Again mod is almost dead  :cry:
Making it possible to account share would be really shitty, this is what startegus is about that clans must mange there clans activity and when no one is playing then that clan goes down the shitter, like the Mercs at the moment.

If you want to account share why don't you just play single player?
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2013, 09:46:45 pm »
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I think i've tried my best to provoke aggression these past weeks/ month. Maybe a bit too much, since we can now hardly leave our fiefs  :oops:

Anyway, if the 8 uif'ish factions still want some action this round, they'll have to make it happen  :mrgreen:


If there are more beta-testers needed, i think there are plenty of interested veterans that want to help + have the insight to do so.

Think vovka, butan, harpag, hetman, some wolves, me, and the all the NA my old friends who seem to have had a more balanced strat 4.



For example the extend to which you can see/ control allies. In the wolves a tool was created for it, most greys think it should be allowed to controle eachother to some extend, crazycracka came with a suggestion on clanmates controlling afk-fiefs. Would be a shame if you didn't involve a bunch of players like that in balancing strat 5  :mrgreen:

And ofc vovka wants to prove he can do a better job being beta-tester for round 5  :P:

Now it sounds like u tried to somehow create the current situation by provoking the clans that attacked you. Newsflash - u didnt provoke them, you provoked us and we invited them to the party. Like Harpag says, dont try to give urself cred for the situation ur in - mistakes dont create cred - cred is for concious decisions/actions not failure.
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2013, 10:05:33 pm »
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Now it sounds like u tried to somehow create the current situation by provoking the clans that attacked you. Newsflash - u didnt provoke them, you provoked us and we invited them to the party. Like Harpag says, dont try to give urself cred for the situation ur in - mistakes dont create cred - cred is for concious decisions/actions not failure.

What harpag says is that my predecessors gave us the perk of the grey enemy since earlier strats, which is true. The war with greys is an achievement of the far past, even before i became a merc.
As for the wolves, i heard you tell me a lot of time it was my fault that the wolves are now enemy's  :wink: That your smaller allies follow you is nothing unexpected  :P
You also seem to be 100% sure that the previous war with wolves (kinny) and the CFA was because of mercs, yet its not my fault that you are my enemy's now?  :lol:

Good to know my hands are clean then, and i'm not responsible for these many enemy's ^^
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2013, 11:04:45 pm »
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Strudog, let's make it simple. Problem is that probably you're lazy like most of players and you don't want to calculate weapons for armies and do all the boring things necessary for stategus, while you are very eager for battles, and this is not surprising. You have no problem to perform simple tasks, such as throwing tickets to the castle, but organization of trade with other clans is too much for you and too boring, but Haboe have any problem and can count crates and all those terribly boring stuff, so when you going with army, and then disappear for three days because I've been drinking again, he should have limited access to your account, because then you ruining efforts of many people. Final result is that you have more than 100 k, but you do not know how to use it. Do you understand?
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Re: Sad story about lost XP
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2013, 11:11:29 am »
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Strudog, let's make it simple. Problem is that probably you're lazy like most of players and you don't want to calculate weapons for armies and do all the boring things necessary for stategus, while you are very eager for battles, and this is not surprising. You have no problem to perform simple tasks, such as throwing tickets to the castle, but organization of trade with other clans is too much for you and too boring, but Haboe have any problem and can count crates and all those terribly boring stuff, so when you going with army, and then disappear for three days because I've been drinking again, he should have limited access to your account, because then you ruining efforts of many people. Final result is that you have more than 100 k, but you do not know how to use it. Do you understand?

I could do it but i dont want to, plus i find strategus battles very boring, but i am grateful for the xp that i gain because i know how much effort goes into strategus, so please dont accuse me of not knowing what goes on because i do. But i think account sharing is utter BS, thats not the guys fault that he has commitments irl, thats something factions have to overcome and that is what makes it very interesting, for example i owned a city in start for the Mercs, i was AFK on strat while this was all going on and it is why it was so easy to take for the Balde's, that's not really my fault if i have irl commitments but probably the factions fault for knowing i have literally no interest in strat. Like i said if you want to account share, it will just make into a game where only 1 guy from each faction actually participating on the Map in strategus, not fun for those that actually want to do something.

I you want to control big hordes of men, why dont you go and play single player? the reason why you dont is because you are unable to brag over the interent how good you are.
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