Thx for buffing the archers

[Liveon]

and you sir might go and brush up on your english 

and you sir might go and brush up on your archery  , or if you are without talent, become a translator,maybe...

[Prpavi]

and you sir might go and brush up on your archery  , or if you are without talent, become a translator,maybe...

lol talent

<----------- thumbs up for u 

[Liveon]

lol talent

<----------- thumbs up for u 

Where are your GREAT xbow-men? Any more questions
This is the end, my friend, the end easy mode...

[Vibe]

Im sorry but how is that a buff? So lancers would be buffed if you removed their horse because then they are you know, lancers, not lancers on a horse?

There isn't much "melee" in a medieval archer, but there is a lot of "horse" in a medieval lancer.

[Liveon]

There isn't much "melee" in a medieval archer, but there is a lot of "horse" in a medieval lancer.

Historically, heavy/long lance only for sporadic/disposable/single use, not for spamming...

[Vibe]

Historically, heavy/long lance only for sporadic/disposable/single use, not for spamming...

True, but unrelated.

[Liveon]

True, but unrelated.

Really? Strongly associated with what is happening now in cRPG, when the rider standing in the one place and spamming lance- maybe this is iron-quick-hand-mutant...

[Hirlok]

I thought we got rid of you... Whatevs, you are a good guy on the forums and you only play siege. I don't care 

naaaah - this shit is faaaar too addictive, could not stand quitting for long ;-)
Claymore now decorates the wall of my virtual eremitage, well oiled and waiting for better times, I redistributed my heirloom points to a girlie bow (for scenarios where I want to have at least a 1-slot melee weapon), arrows and a real bow (longbow, it is not THAT slow once it is triple heirloomed and you have 160+ in archery... ;-) ), and I start getting melee kills with my 0-slot hammer as well, LOL.

Oh, - about siege only: that might change... so: CU and make sure the colors of your armor match those of my feathers...   


to the rest of the thread: "pure" archers are fiction, just as c-rpg. As are melee guys in full armor that do not die of exhaustion after a few minutes of fighting, but still can run as fast as an unarmored archer... (ok, I have 0 athletics, need my points for converting... )
Archers have become better archers on average after the patch, and they have become 1 hit killfood in melee (after being 2 hit killfood before with a 10% chance of survival).
In scenarios where archers can be archers for more than 20 seconds it is indeed easier now - yesterday I was among the top 3 several times.
In maps where it would need some sort of teamplay/strategy, like pikes/melee/ranged really playing together and watching each other's back, we are now completely fucked and get 0/14 KD or so... So usually I drop ma bow, grab some spammer-bec or other still OP shit from the floor, and annoy my teammates with 0 WPF, PS1 totally uncontrolled melee swings... ;-)

[Jarlek]

Im sorry but how is that a buff? So lancers would be buffed if you removed their horse because then they are you know, lancers, not lancers on a horse?

Since you obviously have problems understanding, and the others were too busy laughing at you, let me explain. I never said it was a buff. I quoted a dude who was talking about how weird it was with the change in arrowspeed and I told him that the change in heavy lance speed was also very big (even a bigger change than the arrowspeed). I never said the change was for the better (a buff) nor did I say it was for the worse (which is a nerf and also what it was).

Then I made a comment about all the unfortunate teammates who got hit by me instead of the enemy I was aiming for, because of the change in lance speed.

Then I made a comment about the OT.

Does this make it clearer for you or do you need it put even more simply? If you want to I can find a preschool teacher to explain it to you. Then it might be simple enough for you

[Vibe]

Really? Strongly associated with what is happening now in cRPG, when the rider standing in the one place and spamming lance- maybe this is iron-quick-hand-mutant...

What I was refering to was the term lancer: human, lance, horse
and the term archer: human, arrows, bow (and not necessarily a melee weapon)

If you take the horse away from lancer, it's not a lancer anymore, he's like a pikeman then. If you take a melee weapon from archer, he's still an archer. This argument goes all the way to:

Im sorry but how is that a buff? So lancers would be buffed if you removed their horse because then they are you know, lancers, not lancers on a horse?

[Liveon]

What I was refering to was the term lancer: human, lance, horse
and the term archer: human, arrows, bow (and not necessarily a melee weapon)

If you take the horse away from lancer, it's not a lancer anymore, he's like a pikeman then. If you take a melee weapon from archer, he's still an archer. This argument goes all the way to:

And what is the problem?
Drop your  lance on the ground and pick up and spamming, like pike...
LIKE PIKE but WiTHOUT PIKE.

[Vibe]

And what is the problem?
Drop your  lance on the ground and pick up and spamming, like pike...
LIKE PIKE but WiTHOUT PIKE.

Not saying there is a problem anywhere. What I was targeting was Mullerian's silly comment.

[Belatu]

Just sayin....

You are wellcome

[Mullerian]

Not saying there is a problem anywhere. What I was targeting was Mullerian's silly comment.

Yeah it was a rather poor comparison, i just wanted to illustrate that removing something useful from a class is not a buff, no matter how you sugarcoat it.

"And yes archers where buffed in that now they are, you know, ARCHERS and not 2h/pole/shielder with bow."

And yes, he did indeed use the word "buffed" which as far as i know often means they are improved somehow.

[Vibe]

Yeah it was a rather poor comparison, i just wanted to illustrate that removing something useful from a class is not a buff, no matter how you sugarcoat it.

"And yes archers where buffed in that now they are, you know, ARCHERS and not 2h/pole/shielder with bow."

And yes, he did indeed use the word "buffed" which as far as i know often means they are improved somehow.

Yeah I get it. They weren't really buffed.