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- And why we attacked the Mercs -
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loginSteel axis declared war on Wolves
Mercs decided to back them up
Merc didnt plan this very well
Mercs gained nothing in the war
Mercs wanted peace
Wolves signed it
Mercs threatened us etc
Mercs plan their defences with the skill of a skateboard
Wolves rides the skateboard
Mercs loose Rivacheg, Bulugha and Udinidad
Merc whines in the forums
has been some discussions in the forums about different things concerning this war, we would like to describe it from our point of view without flaming or whining. This is not intended to be an excuse, cause we are not saying we are sorry for the attacks we have made the last week. We are not trying to blame anyone for it, we will stand by our decision to start this war and take the consequences that will come of our chosen path, should it render us wiped then be it. Several players in different clans will have other views of this, they will probably flame and whine but not in here, this will be a locked thread.
Risens and the Bros (Steel Axis)declared their independence and at the same time they attacked the Wolves. For us this was where it started. Others will say that it started with Kinngrimm conspired to attack the mercs, they might be right about that, we (current wolves) dont exactly know, some will say it started in some previous strat when Kinngrimm backstabbed someone, Teutensuppe will probably claim that it started when Kinngrimm was born....To the current Wolves - it started at this day.
Mercs chose to support the Steel Axis in this war and began to attack us. Blackfists (current conquistadores)joined in aswell and from nowhere we were at war with one of the largest Clans on the map, another clan who just betrayed us and Blackfists. At this point Kinngrimm left the game completely. And as he was a leader managing everything from top to bottom (diplo, trade, gear, troops etc) we had no clue about anything or what to do next, who to trade with, where to get gear and so on. Mercs gave us an ultimatum - take all your things and leave the snowlands and we wont wipe you. We took a vote in the clan, and the vote came out 34-2 for staying and fighting, so we did.
Kapikulus, Pantheons, Ecorcheurs and Cotgs stood by us even though at first glance it looked like we were going down with a bang - we will allways be thankful for that support. I remember the first meetings we had in the teamspeak and things were looking very grimm. No leader, no experienced commander, no experienced strat coordinator, no trade coordinator and no armies ready. And we had incoming Merc armies at our doorstep.
We managed to fend off the first incoming armies, while getting ourselfs organised, and what I found at that point was that members were pissed of and worked day and night to make this defence work. Teamspeak hadnt been so full at anytime before during my time in the Wolves. We came together, as a team, where lots of people took responsability and not sitting around waiting to get orders.
Peaceoffers came after about 2 week (not sure when)and a couple of sieges of Slezkh Castle that we managed to fend off. Peaceoffer was that we should be relocated to an other part of the map and we wouldnt get wiped, there were talks about offering us some DRZ fiefs once they were taken (they still arent btw), again we took a vote and the resultat was similar to the first one. So we stayed and fought on.
We talked to Rogue and Casimir during this time, explaining again and again that the only ones benefitting from this war was the Greys, (which at least I, up to that point had been fighting since I started playing strat) and that The Wolves (current Wolves that is)were being pushed to sooner or later side with the Greys. Im sure they did their best to solve the situation but the war just went on. Still Mercs didnt take anything when they attacked, but we lost troops and so did they. So we were attacked by the east, and at the same time we were massively supported by the west block, I am not saying they did it out of pity, ofc they saw an oppurtunity to kill mercs without having to spend armies or resources on it. At this point we were closer to our former enemies than to our former brothers, yet we were still as a clan set on getting back on track, solving the situation and keep on fighting the Greys as soon as the war was over. During the war we didnt even make an effort to attack the Mercs, we made perfectly clear that we were just defending ourselfs
But time went by, the war lasted 4-5 weeks and finally a peace was struck, we all agreed on peace and that Coalition/Templars would guarantee the peace - meaning if anyone should brake the peace they would attack that clan and wipe it. We had managed to keep our fiefs and lost nothing to the Mercs during this war. We were set n keeping the peace treaty at this point. Then Kapis broke the peace, and we still stayed out of it though it was a hard decision to make. Then we noticed that Mercs tried to make fun of us, saying that we were cowards and that they owned us, then the attacked Cotgs and we let it pass. Basically, several of the Mercs were acting really bad towards our members and that didnt help the situation. At this point most of us really didnt feel anything but an eagerness to get some good old payback sooner or later when we had grown stronger and the oppurtunity was right. The actual decision to attack the mercs was made when Ginger came into our teamspeak and openly threatened Overlord, he wanted us to give him 20% of the 4k army we had just aquired or he would attack it. We cleared that up with Haboe (which btw was the only one that seemed reasonably interessted in making things work between our clans during the peacetime), but the decision was made then and there.
Greys started to move on the Dhirim area and made some good progress, and it seemed they were there to stay. So we started working on a plan to get back at the Mercs since the oppurtunity was right, we prepared the plan and also made the neccessary contacts with other clans and involved them also. So one week ago we started marching north from Khudan with 12 armies, plan was to take Rivacheg and Bulugha in the first few days - which we did, also when Mercs moved north on us the clans in the Tihr area would cross the river at Sargoth and lay siege to it.
The last week, since we started attacking last monday, several small/medium clans have offered support in this war or asked to be a part of it, we welcome them and will support them in any way we can, we have no claims on any fief owned by the Mercs, anything is up for grabs so they are all welcome. The North is pretty unprotected so welcome to visit Vezin, Ruvar or any of the other villages - you have our support up there. AND, unlike before we dont rule the small clans, they own their fief and we dont demand anything back from them - Regnum Novae know this, Valdian in Slezkh Village and Poland/Lithuania also - talk to Gods of War in Tismirr they will say the same thing, Pantheons have their village to themselfs, we dont controll these clans and we wont in the future either.
Coalition, during the war they sided mostly for the Mercs in battles, but some of them was on our side definately. I have no problems with them but I also have no illusion that they wont come for us eventually.
Templars, to lots of guys the biggest problem for them with attacking the Mercs was that relations would get worse or even nonexistent with the Templars. Dont know your stance in this, but I guess we will talk eventually. Like the coalition I guess you will be hostile to us aswell, allthough to far of to really get involved perhaps.
Im sure that the Mercs have nice guys in the their clan, like all clans have, and that its only luck or chance that made me join the Wolves when I did, I could have just as easely applied for the Mercs when I started playing. Your enemy could be your best friend if the circumstances were different. This is our point of view, or at least mine - but It I think most of our clanmates would agree to the larger parts of this.
So, we have planned this on our own together with the other small clans that are involved, Greys didnt put us up to this which is the merc-version of it. But like they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Virtual Cookies to all of you out there!!!-GRANNYAnd finally I quote Niemand for the real reason for war - "This is
NOT a trading simulator!"
