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What should be changed about 2h and poles to make it more fair?

Make The Weapons Swing Slower
Add Some Sort Of Stamina To Make Spamming Large 2H impossible
Increase The Strength Required So Maxing Out On Agility And Spamming Is Impossible
Its Fine As Is

Author Topic: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP  (Read 2561 times)

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Offline Redstonerz

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2011, 03:06:14 am »
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okay, this was not a rage thread, im just a new player seeking other opinions, now i understand that its fine as it is and not op considering the poll results.  No need to nerf my awesome bar. plus after playing awhile and gathering some skill i dont think their op at all (mabye some which are fully agility but most are okay)
Thanks for voting  :D


This was very funny, and partially true.
Amagad that 2h guy killed me, such a meanie, and ofcourse it wasnt my fault at all! I am perfect, it must be that they are op, nerf nerf NERF HIM TO THE GROUND! :rolleyes:

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2011, 04:26:58 am »
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 :shock:

Holy crap.


Did he just gracefully change his opinion rather than rage at the internet?!??!?!?! I've heard about people doing this, but never actually seen it done.

You sir, get a +1!
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2011, 05:13:30 am »
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+1 for being a good sport and changing your opinion

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2011, 07:10:32 am »
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 09:54:12 am »
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Katana is too fast, maybe longsword and bastard swords too. Claymore should be bit slower, along with the rest of greatswords, maybe long axes could use some minor speed decrease. But overall weapon balance is better than ever.
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2011, 10:16:21 am »
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Katana is too fast, maybe longsword and bastard swords too. Claymore should be bit slower, along with the rest of greatswords, maybe long axes could use some minor speed decrease. But overall weapon balance is better than ever.

maybe one speed point, but god my long axe is slow enough :(

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2011, 10:53:29 am »
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maybe one speed point, but god my long axe is slow enough :(

Yeah, one point of speed. And perhaps one point of damage. Then playtest it, and it should prove to be balanced.
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2011, 01:51:55 pm »
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"Short story about how to get positive awesomebar in two days"

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About this, I will just quote myself, as it seems my first post wasn't noticed :

The real issue aren't really 2h or polearms imo, it's how fast you can become by stacking agility. Up to a point at which strength is useless, that is. Everything apart crushthrough, which isn't really a good playstyle, favors agility over strength.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2011, 02:36:17 pm »
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Oh, I noticed it but I disagree.
The advantages of str are great, you take more hits and need less hits to kill enemies (you might not notice this vs an individual because you do 80% instead of 70% per hit, but in a group this really shows). Swing speed is nearly identical, for agi build you get more movement speed. Which should not be underestimated but I'd consider high str better killer build, while agi is more a skirmisher.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2011, 03:13:09 pm »
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:shock:

Holy crap.


Did he just gracefully change his opinion rather than rage at the internet?!??!?!?! I've heard about people doing this, but never actually seen it done.

You sir, get a +1!

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2011, 06:25:46 pm »
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Stamina in this game would be awesome.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2011, 06:47:09 pm »
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Stamina in this game would be awesome.

This is something that was discussed a long time ago and it seems like only a minority thinks it's a good idea... The only thing you can do against a spammer is back pedal to teamates or block once and spam his ass too if your fast enough :/

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 08:51:47 pm »
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This is something that was discussed a long time ago and it seems like only a minority thinks it's a good idea... The only thing you can do against a spammer is back pedal to teamates or block once and spam his ass too if your fast enough :/
Or just not suck.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2011, 10:02:14 pm »
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By spammer, I mean a real "good" spammer, not some kind of noob that just swing always in same direction.  You can keep those kind of comments to urself. Personnal attacks to another player by saying he's skilless is kinda lame.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2011, 04:36:08 pm »
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Stamina in this game would be awesome.

It's a terrible idea. The last thing we need is a mechanic that limits and slows down combat.

By spammer, I mean a real "good" spammer, not some kind of noob that just swing always in same direction.  You can keep those kind of comments to urself. Personnal attacks to another player by saying he's skilless is kinda lame.

The real problem with spammers is their opponents. It's impossible to spam someone that actually fights back. Also, if the spammer is blocking/chambering your attacks at all, they're not really spamming. They are legitimately fighting. That's just simply being outclassed.