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What should be changed about 2h and poles to make it more fair?

Make The Weapons Swing Slower
Add Some Sort Of Stamina To Make Spamming Large 2H impossible
Increase The Strength Required So Maxing Out On Agility And Spamming Is Impossible
Its Fine As Is

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Offline Redstonerz

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2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« on: May 08, 2011, 04:19:03 am »
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As of now some peaple can spam there huge two handers faster then a man with a one hander, this is ridiculous. something needs to be done to balance this.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 04:21:50 am »
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This is not the case.
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 04:28:37 am »
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drop 2h/pole speed by 15-20 each and give them some sort of cleave/block breaking abilities

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 04:29:47 am »
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Drop 2h/pole speed by 50 each and damage by 50%. Ha! That'll show them!
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 04:34:02 am »
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drop 2h/pole speed by 15-20 each and give them some sort of cleave/block breaking abilities

No.
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 04:36:45 am »
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welcome to the game, first try to learn to play plz, you've just arrived after the 5th(6th?) 2h nerf is as many months?
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 04:44:23 am »
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1handers are faster in game than poles and 2hs.

If this game's attack speed went any slower it would be annoying to play...

You are probably just assuming that since their attacks are hitting first due to being logner than 1hs, that they are faster -- combined with hesitating after blocking on your counter swing.
Or you are getting circled and are losing to footwork, not spam.
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 11:40:26 am »
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Amagad that 2h guy killed me, such a meanie, and ofcourse it wasnt my fault at all! I am perfect, it must be that they are op, nerf nerf NERF HIM TO THE GROUND! :rolleyes:
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 02:42:59 pm »
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Dude are you freaking serous?.... the 2h swords just got a big nerf. :rolleyes: This thread clearly just looks like a rage thread because they kill u.

The fact that they hit first is because that you get circled. Maybe the fact that they do footwork against you, Or you maybe have a fail build? :rolleyes:

1h does nearly the same dmg as a fucking 2h. And the speed on 1h is ridicolous, trust me i can just spam people with 1h in duels, even with 1 wpf.

Lets try comparing the stats.

Long Espada Eslavonaweapon
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 103
thrust damage: 28 pierce

swing damage: 27 cut

German Greatsword
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 123
thrust damage: 25 pierce

swing damage: 38 cut

Look at the stab dmg, and the speed is way faster. And this is a little tiny 1h, while the other is a actual 2h. These weapons aint supose to have the same stats. The 1h got a shield with it, which you just have to rightclick to block. And the length is nearly the same. And the German is one of the biggest 2h swords out there.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2011, 03:04:45 pm »
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Be amazed at how fast your awesome bar can drop.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 07:40:29 pm »
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1-h is in fact almost as fast (if not as fast) as 2-h... it's cuz u have a shield that you think you are slower. Whenever you block with ur shield, u run slower (penalty to athletics/running speed as soon as you RMB). Also you can counter but u'll be much slower than somebody that manual blocked. It's the price u pay to have an auto-block/protection of projectiles. I'm currently 1-hander with this gen and I simply hate it... until you have a decent 5-6 athletics everybody can "footwork ur ass" and slash u in the back or side. I guess I'll return polearm next gen  :?  was doing much better ...  :twisted:

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 09:14:24 pm »
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Don't be like me and stop at 12 agility and combine it with a heavy board shield. Makes you slow as fuck.

Has nothing to do with the speed of polearms or 2h weapons.

Imo, this is the first time I really feel the game is as balanced as it could be. Some maps favor some builds, but in the end everybody has an equal chance.
I've seen shielders, 2h, polearms, cav, archers an crossbowmen at the top of the scoreboards. Whenever 1 class hits the top a lot, it's mostly cRPG veterans who would kick my ass at level 4 with a club anyway.
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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2011, 11:45:50 pm »
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Don't be like me and stop at 12 agility and combine it with a heavy board shield. Makes you slow as fuck.

Has nothing to do with the speed of polearms or 2h weapons.

Imo, this is the first time I really feel the game is as balanced as it could be. Some maps favor some builds, but in the end everybody has an equal chance.
I've seen shielders, 2h, polearms, cav, archers an crossbowmen at the top of the scoreboards. Whenever 1 class hits the top a lot, it's mostly cRPG veterans who would kick my ass at level 4 with a club anyway.

Yes, it feel way better balanced than ever before. But there are still some issues.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 12:06:07 am »
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The real issue aren't really 2h or polearms imo, it's how fast you can become by stacking agility. Up to a point at which strength is useless, that is. Everything apart crushthrough, which isn't really a good playstyle, favors agility over strength.

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Re: 2 Hander Weapons And Poles Are Way To Fast And OP
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 02:09:46 am »
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Drop the shield and you will swing way faster than 2handers with a 1hander.  You choose to use a crutch, expect some tradeoffs.
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