Movement Speed

[Vovka]

i think we play in different strats ((

[Vovka]

This is what I use

Number of troops x 2 + Number of horses > Number of crates (not goods) for max speed bonus.

So with 5000 horses and 500 troops you could carry up to 6000 crates or around 10,000 trading goods while still maintaining a max speed bonus.

It was 5000 of the same type of goods. Here's a screenshot I took to show my friend who didn't believe me either:

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Notice I am quick marching at max speed. From my testing I could have had 204 more crates while keeping the bonus.

so on screen u have 250 troops 2927 horses and "3723 crates not goods"
now use ur magic formula
250*2+2927=3427 of shit its not more then 3723
 

[Penguin]

so on screen u have 250 troops 2927 horses and "3723 crates not goods"
now use ur magic formula
250*2+2927=3427 of shit its not more then 3723
 

Take into account excess equipment which takes around 300 crates

[Vovka]

Take into account excess equipment which takes around 300 crates

oh yes 5020 goods its 3347 crates but still

troops   250   250   250
rouncey   2924   3350   5020
goods   5020   5020   5020
crates   3347   3347   3347
         
speed   13.805   17.890   32.202

[Bjarky]

as Vovka is pointing out, u have even more crates than your calc is supposedly allowing for an speed bonus, so yeah, seems to me that you info page aint updated at all...
also your pic is showing 5020 goods on the left side and 5041 goods on the middle of the screen...
i'm not gonna waste my time on this sry.
either your messing around here or you're using some buggy scripts for your stratpage.

[Vovka]

as Vovka is pointing out, u have even more crates than your calc is supposedly allowing for an speed bonus, so yeah, seems to me that you info page aint updated at all...
also your pic is showing 5020 goods on the left side and 5041 goods on the middle of the screen...
i'm not gonna waste my time on this sry.
either your messing around here or you're using some buggy scripts for your stratpage.

i think he have 21 stakes they calculate as goods by script

[Bjarky]

i think he have 21 stakes they calculate as goods by script

ah ok

[Vovka]

ah ok

btw i think he is merican no? god bless merica iam out 

[Penguin]

as Vovka is pointing out, u have even more crates than your calc is supposedly allowing for an speed bonus, so yeah, seems to me that you info page aint updated at all...
also your pic is showing 5020 goods on the left side and 5041 goods on the middle of the screen...
i'm not gonna waste my time on this sry.
either your messing around here or you're using some buggy scripts for your stratpage.

250*2 + 2927 = 3427 + 300 = 3727 > 3724
Troops   Horses         Equipment

If you don't believe me put your money where your mouth is. I will take the same amount of equipment specified in my original post. If I can't travel at max speed, I will give you 3 loom points. But if I can you will give me 3 million strat gold.

[Vovka]

250*2 + 2927 = 3427 + 300 = 3727 > 3724
Troops   Horses         Equipment

If you don't believe me put your money where your mouth is. I will take the same amount of equipment specified in my original post. If I can't travel at max speed, I will give you 3 loom points. But if I can you will give me 3 million strat gold.

save ur looms mate just test it with same as on screen and then add 3k horse on top (5020 in summ)
and u will get this

troops   250   250   250
rouncey   2924   3350   5020
goods   5020   5020   5020
crates   3347   3347   3347
         
speed   13.805   17.890   32.202

btw max speed in strat smlike 91-93+-  (2 troops 2 horse 0 crates qm)

[Bjarky]

As Vovka is showing and what you also should get on your stratpage, if u dont, then try disabling your scripts, restart your browser and wait a minute for the page to update after your move action.
There is something going wrong on your page, because we just cant reproduce your numbers mate, no reason to start a betting contest for that...

[En_Dotter]

The thing Veritas is asking should be: I have more horses than troops and crates together. Far more than that. Yet it gives 50% of expected speed. Before that it worked perfectly. Did something change? He has more than 4k more horses than needed.

According to formula u dont need horse per good and per troop but u need horses per CRATE and per troop.

[Vovka]

The thing Veritas is asking should be: I have more horses than troops and crates together. Far more than that. Yet it gives 50% of expected speed. Before that it worked perfectly. Did something change? He has more than 4k more horses than needed.

According to formula u dont need horse per good and per troop but u need horses per CRATE and per troop.

give numbers 

[Butan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArQFr5D9x-NpdEpuT3ROaWVwdWNNUVFGdDRWV0p6aEE#gid=0

Nice doc, I will use it.


The only thing I still have doubt with is :

- the "X + Y" goods type that chadz mentionned in the beginning.... I think it is still true at some degree

- the "10 000 crates and +" range seems to be different (due to bug or due to formula changing with lots of goods/crates?)

[Vovka]

i dont know how crates calculate
 if u have different types of good for example 99*6 (594 in summ) give 99 crates in same time 594 of 1 type goods give u 400 crates and 100*10 = 167 crates in same time 1k goods = 1000*0.666 ~ 667 crates...
for max speed u need #horses more then troops more then crates and more then biggest amount of goods if u have several types


so for transport 600 goods (1 type) with max speed u need 600 horses
or only 100 in u have 6 types  goods * 99  (or 101 horses for 100*6 cos its give u 101 crates)

but its almost useless for big factions caravans cos they transfer not more than 2-3 types of goods in same time and its pain in ass calculate how many horses u need and if plan swap with some one u can be fuccked so better just take so many horses as goods u have