Movement Speed

[VeritasQ]

Is there any change in speed options lately ? Because my current horse amount is bigger than crates amount + my troops and my movement speed is around 17-18 meters per minute 

[Bjarky]

the strat Map terrain plays a role as well.
so if u are in a forest or a hill area 17-18 meters would be your speed with horses, unless u have made a slight oversight and mixed crates with amount of goods (u need more horses than the amount of goods, crates play no direct role when we purely operate with goods numbers)

[Vovka]

also after 5h quick march u exhausted for several hours

[Penguin]

This is what I use

Number of troops x 2 + Number of horses > Number of crates (not goods) for max speed bonus.

So with 5000 horses and 500 troops you could carry up to 6000 crates or around 10,000 trading goods while still maintaining a max speed bonus.

[Bjarky]

This is what I use

Number of troops x 2 + Number of horses > Number of crates (not goods) for max speed bonus.

So with 5000 horses and 500 troops you could carry up to 6000 crates or around 10,000 trading goods while still maintaining a max speed bonus.

have u actually tried this, cus i dont believe you can have horse speed bonus with these numbers, rather the opposite.
as soon as u have more goods than horses you will loose your speed bonus, dont forget to do an action on the map first, so the info numbers are updated.

[Penguin]

have u actually tried this, cus i dont believe you can have horse speed bonus with these numbers, rather the opposite.
as soon as u have more goods than horses you will loose your speed bonus, dont forget to do an action on the map first, so the info numbers are updated.

Yes, I have tried this, but not with the numbers specified. About 2 weeks ago I had 3000 horses and 5000 goods with 250 troops. I was able to keep max bonus speed (32). To test this I kept increasing the number of goods and moving inside and outside of the fief until I suffered a speed penalty and that's where I got my numbers from.

[Bjarky]

That still sounds odd to me, i'm gonna do another test then today when my little battle is done, ty for your input, i'll definitely will try it and post about it here.

[Vovka]

Yes, I have tried this, but not with the numbers specified. About 2 weeks ago I had 3000 horses and 5000 goods with 250 troops. I was able to keep max bonus speed (32). To test this I kept increasing the number of goods and moving inside and outside of the fief until I suffered a speed penalty and that's where I got my numbers from.

do u had 5000* goods or 2,3,4,5 differrent types of goods with summary ammount of 5000* goods?

[Penguin]

do u had 5000* goods or 2,3,4,5 differrent types of goods with summary ammount of 5000* goods?

It was 5000 of the same type of goods. Here's a screenshot I took to show my friend who didn't believe me either:

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Notice I am quick marching at max speed. From my testing I could have had 204 more crates while keeping the bonus.

[Vovka]

tested right now with same amount of troops (250) goods (5020) and horses (2927)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArQFr5D9x-NpdEpuT3ROaWVwdWNNUVFGdDRWV0p6aEE#gid=0

i got speed 13.805 (with quick march 13,805* ~2.3 = ~31,75)
if take horses more then crates speed 17.890 (qm ~40,9) 
AND IF HORSES = GOODS speed 32.202 (qm ~74)
so stfu and here - from me for wasting 1h of my time   

tip: speed recalculate after 1 min in moving so if enter in fief with speed 70 take 1000000000 crates and press move to in info it will be still show speed 70 and only after 1 min travel ur speed recalculater and will te shown as 9

[Penguin]

I don't know why you think I'm lying, or why you're being hostile. Do you think I really photoshopped that picture? What would I gain? What kind of horses are you using, how much equipment are you carrying, and what terrain?

[Vovka]

i think u just take that screen right after u got goods and leave fief and didnt wait 1 min

[Penguin]

I promise you vovka, I did no such thing.

Here are the horses I had if that makes a difference:

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[Vovka]

if u still have that goods just take another 3k horses and ur speed will increase
its always worked as: max speed if horses > goods > troops
if u want take more goods u can take different types of goods but still horses must  more than the amount of each type of goods

[Penguin]

But I have max speed bonus already. I move the same speed with 20 goods as I do with 5000 goods. This is the forumla I worked out myself and it has worked for me 3 times now. If you don't want to believe it I'm not going to force you, but don't call me a liar! 

Btw, if I had just left a fief in the above screenshot, then why would my quick march be at 251 minutes? That would mean I turned on quick march in the fief then left almost an hour later.