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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2013, 09:00:50 pm »
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2013, 10:04:40 pm »
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You underestimate the effort they need to do for it.
To hit that hard, he has to have some nice speed bonus and aim for the head, and he pays with less survivability for that speed bonus.
If you mean agi characters are OP because they don't lose as much power as you expect them to, well you're just wrong. Try to play with heavily agi-based char for a few gens.
yep. Their blade has to also do a good over 90 degree turn to pick up its speed, in which time they are easly prone to spam and their hit is more predictable and therefor easier to block.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2013, 10:23:49 pm »
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One place I think that would be great to start is reducing the effect of power strike on increasing the sweet spot for swings, and you could do this with all weapons.

I believe it removes skill from the game a great deal if you can do these magical attacks.

1h for example is very pickey with sweet spots when you attack, and a lot of this "mysterious" speed that comes from elite 2h players is merely from having high PS that allows them to strike effectively earlier in the animation.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2013, 10:30:11 pm »
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2013, 10:33:21 pm »
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2013, 01:00:13 am »
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One place I think that would be great to start is reducing the effect of power strike on increasing the sweet spot for swings, and you could do this with all weapons.

I believe it removes skill from the game a great deal if you can do these magical attacks.

1h for example is very pickey with sweet spots when you attack, and a lot of this "mysterious" speed that comes from elite 2h players is merely from having high PS that allows them to strike effectively earlier in the animation.

In all honesty the sweet spots for swings should be forced at power strike 4-5 levels for all weapons and remove the buff power strike gives completely.

That way it really only adds raw damage.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2013, 01:00:27 am »
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2013, 03:29:58 pm »
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- Decrease the hideous speed bonus from longsword/hbs/bs

- Make the lolstab bounce a lot more, and completely make the hug stabs bounce

- Increase the stun of a fail stab

- Buff their chamber attacks

and before people start saying that I`m biased and butthurt because I`m a polearmer.

- Add the tag unbalanced to all polearms

- Nerf their speed

- Buff their damage

- Make hoplite stab, bounce if facestab

- Do not allow blocking and jumping with Pike/Lspears


I'll have to disagree on there Panus ! ( lame joke I know)
When a 2h with low wpf ( aka me ith high str and armor) makes a stab that does not hit, the stun if enough to allow the enemy to have a free hit. I have died numerous times as 2h with that bullcrap.
Making the stun longer is like katana-stabbing, it will mean 'lol, u thrust u die biatch'.
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2013, 05:48:35 pm »
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I'll have to disagree on there Panus ! ( lame joke I know)
When a 2h with low wpf ( aka me ith high str and armor) makes a stab that does not hit, the stun if enough to allow the enemy to have a free hit. I have died numerous times as 2h with that bullcrap.
Making the stun longer is like katana-stabbing, it will mean 'lol, u thrust u die biatch'.

This. A stun of that kind should allow blocking in time, no matter the speeds.

Instead, remove this gamey feature that lets you feint thrust at pointblank, produce a bounce sound but still do another (and I think it is faster than usual) slash because you "feinted". This is a minor problem though and depending on who you ask it should remain because that's a fairly high skill move.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2013, 02:42:09 pm »
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This. A stun of that kind should allow blocking in time, no matter the speeds.

Instead, remove this gamey feature that lets you feint thrust at pointblank, produce a bounce sound but still do another (and I think it is faster than usual) slash because you "feinted". This is a minor problem though and depending on who you ask it should remain because that's a fairly high skill move.
This feature isn't just a 2h one, just as easy to do with an espada or a warspear.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2013, 06:13:53 am »
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any STR player can use xbow, xbow need Power Draw skill. if u dont want hear more pew pew put PD skill for xbow. All archers 100%, xbow 70%, bow archer 30% because bow archer is a class and we are use skill point for this, but xbow is not a class not need PD skill... its a big BUG!
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2013, 10:10:28 pm »
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No, PD requirement for crossbows would be so silly.Just slow them down, make every damn map rainy,increase their reloading time or make an crossbow jam chance intentionally.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2013, 07:04:28 am »
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Xbow on horseback should have a 50% increased draw time.

That way there is an advantage and a disadvantage to being on horseback.

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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2013, 11:25:13 am »
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i'm going to guess you mean weapon speed here not speed bonus

Yes, clearly a mistake from my part, I wanted to write, Damage gained from the Speed Bonus

shows why no one takes you seriously Panos, if you did that then make downblock useless against stabs and unable to block multiple at one time

Thats ok Strudog, no one will nerf your precious Lspear.
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Re: How to nerf 2h
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2013, 11:51:30 am »
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