How to nerf 2h

[Strudog]

- Do not allow blocking and jumping with Pike/Lspears

shows why no one takes you seriously Panos, if you did that then make downblock useless against stabs and unable to block multiple at one time

[darmaster]

put back that old stab 2h used to have and nerf a bit their damage. also i'm tired to see how ninjas with less then 6ps take me half of hps thanks to that stupid "speed bonus" or whatever it is.

[Macropus]

also i'm tired to see how ninjas with less then 6ps take me half of hps thanks to that stupid "speed bonus" or whatever it is.

Oh, really?
6 PS is too low indeed, anything below 8 should only be able to scratch your armour a bit.

[Vibe]

- Decrease the hideous speed bonus from longsword/hbs/bs

i'm going to guess you mean weapon speed here not speed bonus

[karasu]

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[Kafein]

put back that old stab 2h used to have and nerf a bit their damage. also i'm tired to see how ninjas with less then 6ps take me half of hps thanks to that stupid "speed bonus" or whatever it is.

So, you don't block and then you complain about being hit ?

[matt2507]

I think the HX are op because classes that can counter HX have been nerfed.

Archery: nerfed
HA: nerfed
Lance cav: nerfed

Now, they do not really have menaces against them.
In addition, apart from the "Horse Archery", they have no class weapon difficulty on their build.

I think to balance the things, crossbows should have some sort of PowerDraw.
And instead of constantly nerf, should be slightly buff classes that can counter them.

[darmaster]

So, you don't block and then you complain about being hit ?

?? it happens i get hit unfortunately, and i hate when people with less than 6ps take 50% of my hps with a single hit just because of their ath, that's all :l

[Macropus]

?? it happens i get hit unfortunately, and i hate when people with less than 6ps take 50% of my hps with a single hit just because of their ath, that's all :l

You underestimate the effort they need to do for it.
To hit that hard, he has to have some nice speed bonus and aim for the head, and he pays with less survivability for that speed bonus.
If you mean agi characters are OP because they don't lose as much power as you expect them to, well you're just wrong. Try to play with heavily agi-based char for a few gens.

[San]

Increase the wpf reduction for wearing heavy armor.

Make wpf reduction linear and not biased towards strength/low wpf. Plate armor and 111 wpf should have more of a decrease than 160 wpf and medium armor. This won't make heavier armors absolutely useless for agi players, too, and instead makes it more of a tradeoff. Also speeds up the game.

[Mogh]

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[Prpavi]

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[Ulter]

I don't like how all 2h are put in the same bag. It's the 2h swords, especially longsword and HBS that are problematic.

Anyways I think what should be done is reducing the 2h stab damage, while making halfswording viable
It should be possible to block while switching between normal mode and halfswording, and incresing the halfswording mode stab damage a bit.

I find it frustrating that halfswording is in the game, but is almost useless. Tweaking it might be a good way to balance 2h, without more nerfing...

[Lannistark]

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[Uther Pendragon]

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