What class is OP

[Macropus]

- In melee you don't have to aim. You don't really need a mouse actually.

afaik, Nebuchadnezzar (9th ranked EU duellist) plays without mouse, as well as Ivani4 (once again, not confirmed).

- Melee weapons are unblockable like projectiles, therefore you don't really need to feint or hold or whatever.

Ranged players feint in melee range in its own way as well, just look at Tiborur facehug-shooting shielders.

- Melee weapons are several hundred meters long, because they have the same reach as ranged weapons.

No, but they have much faster "fire rate" than any ranged.

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Not really supposing it to be a serious argument since everyone has his own "hard" and easy classes. For me personally archery has always been harder than melee, not sure about xbows.

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and drunk Russian jokes.

whaaat, I am OFFENDED! 

[Testicleez]

I'm surprised that 2h cav isn't a more popular vote... I considered myself to be barely above par at this game when I played as infantry, but I recently switched to 2h cav and now I'm top 5 on my team 90% of the time with a high kill to death ratio. Maybe it's just the class that suits me best since I'm garbage at blocking, or maybe it's just a super easy class that not many people seem to mind. *shrugs*

[Gurnisson]

Just for people calling out on all the long spears in strategus. They, along with hoplites, makes a big difference in big blobs, certainly. While their power in crpg is limited, they really shine in strat battles where you'll be alongside teammates for pretty much the whole battle. I know some factions stopped crafting many types of good 4d polearms to get more people to take pikes.

[Falka]

Recently I play mostly in strat battles, so tones of pikers in strat have bigger impact on my feelings than - questionable - lack of them outside strat

In current state of strat, with whole armies consisting of tincans in transitional or even milanese plate, pierce dmg becomes more and more useful and the same happens with pikers, cut dmg just doesn't work against 70+ body armor Maybe would be good to implement some kind of upper limit of very heavy armors (it's not gonna happen).

[BlueKnight]

Have you fought recently against grey order? They - and their allies - have plenty of pikers.

Have you fought against Apostates and their allies? They have even more hoplites+pikers. Whole strat battle is about doing downblock and overheads and obviously about lying half of the battle on the ground cuz knocked down by military hammer...

[no_rules_just_play]

no rules you abuze pike like boss and call 2h eassymode?
so what from when gangbang polearmer with instant stab is the hardest class in game,

yes and im not even that good, if i dont play for a while i die within seconds again. I have played both 2h and hoplite on low lvl alts and it was easy.
When I play piker Im grinding my desk with my toes archest into my stone floor while pushing my forehead against my monitor in order to be as close as possible to my computer screen.
When I had those lvl 23-25 2h and hoplite alts i was laying back in my chair while topping the scoreboard.

I think that already says alot.

And about the instastabbing? Well maybe if you make a huge arch with your weapon, but i found that easier with a hoplite than any polearm. And dont forget that we still have the 2h, Able to outreach my long awlpike and able to spam on facehug distance. God, if curvestab was taken out of the game, polearms would have nothing left anymore.

[Falka]

Have you fought against Apostates and their allies? They have even more hoplites+pikers. Whole strat battle is about doing downblock and overheads and obviously about lying half of the battle on the ground cuz knocked down by military hammer..

Yes, I have fought quite a lot against Apostates and definitely they don't have so many pikers and especially hoplites as GO & Byz. Though Knitler alone is like at least 5 pikers The part about military hammer is right I guess

[no_rules_just_play]

Yes, I have fought quite a lot against Apostates and definitely they don't have so many pikers and especially hoplites as GO & Byz. Though Knitler alone is like at least 5 pikers The part about military hammer is right I guess

knitler is quite bad at piking if you compare it with his awlpike. However he would still pwn most people :p

[BlueKnight]

And dont forget that we still have the 2h. Able to outreach my long awlpike...

You just fail at timing or exaggerate on purpose...

[Arrowblood]

FUCKING HX ARE THE WORST SHIT EVER DANM BLOODY LOVE

[Micah]

nerf red pls, remove red from game , i hate red so fking silly OP BS , all players kno,  game broken, mod died , retards red players all noobs, devs l2balancing , all stupid red players, unfair game is shitz
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18537513

and for anyone who actually does care to know what he is talking about:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_%28game_design%29

I really dont know how this QQ-balance-mentality came to its new peak-level like now AGAIN.
One can only hope that devs remember what game balancing (game design) really is about and that they give a shit about those current threads.

[Angantyr]

There's balance problems with 1handers and nudge currently, especially the military- or warhammer nudge, kick and knockdown combo.

[BlueKnight]

There's balance problems with 1handers and nudge currently, especially the military- or warhammer nudge, kick and knockdown combo.

Fucking knockdown...

[Aethelwolf]

hoplite hoplite and again, hoplite.
I've been playing as a hoplite for a while and it is easy as hell on EU_1 and strat battles.
It has its counters but just stick with the group and you get ultimate killing machine in clusterfucks.

 

[no_rules_just_play]

You just fail at timing or exaggerate on purpose...

even the greatsword does. I tested it, so please...