What class is OP

[BlueKnight]

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Well first off, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. You're helping me prove my point yet calling me foolish and attributing it to me being American (ironically enough I'm 90% European, though I do live in America). You said you can spam mindlessly and not glance due to STR crutch, I stated that you don't need STR crutch to spam and not glance, you continued on to prove my point with your facts behind WM and ATH, yet called me foolish even though your argument completely supported my point in the first place. Little bit of facepalm there.

Also, I think you may need to re-read my post, I don't believe I ever stated that you personally didn't know how spam 2H, but hey, maybe I'm blind and there's some secret text in there only you can see, I'm a foolish American right?

Lastly, I would gladly take that bet, alas as we play on different servers and I get 150-300 ping on EU, I don't think it'd be a very fair fight. But yes, all of this was just because I love seeing my own text and hearing my own voice. I'm just a silly American after all. (not really I'm mostly German but GG)

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Calling somebody stupid because he's American is a form of internet joke. You shouldn't even react to that. It's like one of those fleeing French and drunk Russian jokes. I know you know but yet you responded to that.

I agree that if player glances it' is player's fault, though when we are talking about new players/nabs, they may be less likely to glance with str build as they don't know how to use their agi properly anyway. I guess you were both right but I don't understand this "shaft" thing Guy was talking about. Anyway polearm animation is the easiest to perform instaslash.

This is funny how every round I nudge a few people which grants me free hits. I just wonder when people notice that it's not just a strong feature to weak class but an OP feature to good class... Sooner or later they will see and then the cry will begin. There aren't many 1h/no shield around... yet.

[51L3NC3R]

chose mounted shielder because they can be tank charger (shielded bumper)

[Memento_Mori]

I should have worded what I was saying differently, 2h isn't OP or uncounterable or uber destroyer 9000 it's just I find it's a lot easier compared to the other melee classes. I guess I don't really see anything as blatantly OP atm then, nudging (against raised shields) is kinda silly.

[no_rules_just_play]

I should have worded what I was saying differently, 2h isn't OP or uncounterable or uber destroyer 9000 it's just I find it's a lot easier compared to the other melee classes. I guess I don't really see anything as blatantly OP atm then, nudging (against raised shields) is kinda silly.

the problem is that its not only easy, but also too strong for being so easy.

You could call shielder easy because you dont need manual blocking, but not OP as its actually a weaker class which actually makes it harder than 2h.

[Tibe]

I should have worded what I was saying differently, 2h isn't OP or uncounterable or uber destroyer 9000 it's just I find it's a lot easier compared to the other melee classes. I guess I don't really see anything as blatantly OP atm then, nudging (against raised shields) is kinda silly.

Well so is kicking tbh. People complain how just punching a shield and staggering the user is unrealistically silly, but so is kicking it. Doing a quick kick at a raised shield would have roughly the same outcome as punching it. But nobody bitches about kicking. The nudge is silly because you really dont have to calculate the opponents moves, you only have to walk infront of him or close behind him. Kicking on the other hand requires you to anticipate your opponents movement, which is lot more cooler and skillrequiring. Plus fucking up a kick is a pretty costly mistake most of the time.

I dont see nudge being way to OP outside of 1v1. Not many shieldless 1h-s survive the round anyway in battle and havent seen many use it in siege and those with shields usually dont go for nudges at all. Personally in general I got nudged like once every 5 rounds. There arent alot of shieldless 1hs, cause besides the nudge it really has no other advantages over other classes.

[Rebelyell]

the problem is that its not only easy, but also too strong for being so easy.

You could call shielder easy because you dont need manual blocking, but not OP as its actually a weaker class which actually makes it harder than 2h.

looooooooooooooooool


no rules you abuze pike like boss and call 2h eassymode?
so what from when gangbang polearmer with instant stab is the hardest class in game,

[Tibe]

looooooooooooooooool


no rules you abuze pike like boss and call 2h eassymode?
so what from when gangbang polearmer with instant stab is the hardest class in game,

Every second player in this mod is a gswordmy old friend. How many pike abuzers have you seen? Like mybe 2-3 per filled server....I think that speaks for itself.

[Rebelyell]

style, pike longspear have 0 of it

but to be honest 2h axes and spammydao are but to powerfull

[Christo]

style, pike longspear have 0 of it

originality, longsword greatsword have 0 of it

[Rebelyell]

originality, longsword greatsword have 0 of it

longsword is dead child of unneeded buff QQ

[Kafein]

Wait until I sell it before nerfing my longsword please

[Prpavi]

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[Falka]

Every second player in this mod is a gswordmy old friend. How many pike abuzers have you seen? Like mybe 2-3 per filled server....I think that speaks for itself.

Have you fought recently against grey order? They - and their allies - have plenty of pikers.

I have played as 2h since day one, half year ago started to play as 1h / shielder and I don't think 2h is more powerful than shielder. Okay, 1h no shield is pretty weak on strat and maybe on battle, but not a shielder.

[Tibe]

You mean pikes in strat? Havent seen a single Grey piker in Regular EU1 battle thou. In strat whoring lots of pikes is a well known and old tactic. Piking is lot more easier to pull off and effective if its done in masses. In strat its easier to organise cause most communication is done via TS. In crpg however, pikers are close to 0. Point is that, we cant start nerfin pikes in general and turn crpg into shit for those few acctually good pikers just cause lots of garbage no individual pikingskillhaving stratplayers prefer going the easier route with it in stratbattles. Its about same as if lets say someone wanted to nerf mauls just cause of stratbattles. What would be the point? There is like couple of people even playing with a maul in crpg, but in strat the number of maulers increases dramatically compared to your average crpg battle.

I was mainly speaking about 1h with no shield.

[Falka]

Yup, in strat. Sometimes I have the impression that 1/3 of players in their rosters is some kind of piker 

I was referring to your previous post in this thread when you said that only newbies and players who play exclusively 2h think that 2h isn't OP. 2h is pretty friendly for new players, there's no doubt, but being myself a shielder I don't think that shielder is weaker than 2h, while 1h no shield though a bit weaker than these 2 classes mention above is just good enough.

I dont see nudge being way to OP outside of 1v1.

Nudge is best in ganking, in situation like 1 vs 2-3, one guy makes nudge, second one hits. The victim of this combo in most cases is vulnerable. In current state I find nudge annoying, silly and too powerful is some circumstances.