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Choose the 2 classes you find most OP in game currently. 5 days from now poll closes.

xbow on foot
26 (4.4%)
xbow on horseback
158 (26.7%)
2hander on foot
128 (21.6%)
2hander on horseback
22 (3.7%)
polearm on foot
31 (5.2%)
polearm / shield on horseback
12 (2%)
archer on foot
12 (2%)
archer on horseback
12 (2%)
1hander shielder on foot
13 (2.2%)
1hander shielder on horseback
48 (8.1%)
hoplite
49 (8.3%)
thrower on foot
17 (2.9%)
thrower on horseback
12 (2%)
1hander without shield
52 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 374

Voting closed: June 18, 2013, 12:16:20 am

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 01:00:10 am »
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Polearms. Because fix the damn animations.

HX, because it's too effective for a gimmicky class

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2013, 01:01:32 am »
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the problem with this is that this doesnt really say anything. Some classes just have a shitload of people playing them because they are so easy. And who would ever vote for his own class?

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 01:03:38 am »
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the problem with this is that this doesnt really say anything. Some classes just have a shitload of people playing them because they are so easy. And who would ever vote for his own class?

I was that close from voting 2h instead of HX, but I want a better world for my children.

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 01:09:02 am »
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2H on foot. Animations are far superior than polearms and superior reach and damage to 1H (which is understandable.)

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 01:16:19 am »
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forgot wizard class. WIZARDS OP NERF WIZARDS.
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 01:21:17 am »
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NERF 2H
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 01:40:40 am »
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hey its panos president of the anti 2hander campaign :D
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 01:58:05 am »
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hey its panos president of the anti 2hander campaign :D

i`ll only rest when I see 2h crashed into pieces
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2013, 02:30:58 am »
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HX is currently the most over-powered class in battle mode.

The standard build only requires 7 str, with the rest stacked into agility. They are the fastest horseman, and deal considerably more damage than horse archers with greater ability to perform "clutch" close range shots. They are only vulnerable to other horse archers, but with far superior damage and speed they can still compete if the archer does not manage to interrupt reloads. They can dodge foot archers and xbowman easily on open maps due to good maneuver used against long travel time for projectiles. They should have their speed reduced by 25% while loading crossbows, they should take a greater WPF loss when moving to make charging armed infantry (with the prospect of hitting them with a bolt, and then ramming them) more of a risk, should have their reload speed increased by 25%, and should be allowed to use the regular crossbow. This would reduce the HX's ability to constantly pester without running away first, and it would make them more vulnerable to horse archers. With the ability to use a regular crossbow, HX's would take more str, resulting in even greater reduction in mobility, while giving them a solid niche as a tank buster.

The greatest thing about HX is their ability to manhandle heavy cavalry. Give them more tools to put a hurting on shieldless tin cans on foot and on horseback, while reducing their ability to snipe people at high speeds for incredible damage.


Also, don't remove nudge, but implement a shield bash. I know people keep saying this would make shields overpowered, but it would be an appropriate addition to the class in response to nudging. The shield bash speed would be between a nudge and a kick depending on the weight of the shield, with frequency of use dependent on shield skill, with similar range greater than a nudge but less than a kick. The shield bash should not stun for long enough to guarantee a hit, only to break an attack or parry and force the opponent onto the defensive. Shields require a considerable investment in agility to use and should a greater defensively than simply soaking up damage. Shield users should have some capability of remaining a threat while holding ground and playing defensively. As it stands, shielders playing defensively are kick fodder. This would also give more viability to buckler use. Reduce the "force field" effect of bucklers and force users to actively attempt to catch oncoming projectiles by positioning their shield up or down. In a fight there is little reason to take a sheild over a 2handed weapon when you are familiar with the blocking system due to the sheer damage and "spamability" of 2handers. With a shield bash we would see less strength stacking dedicated 2handers (and according to this thread, most people agree it is the most over powered class after HX) and more balanced spec'd 2handed users with some points in shield, carrying a 1hander and shield as well as a 2handed weapon into combat. This would give hoplites the ability to create range with their spears.

This would not make shields over powered it would only incentivize players (especially 2handed players) to utilize axes. Axes are currently far inferior to swords in their applications, give players a reason to bring an axe instead of a sword. Shields should not be and never were just an anti-arrow device.
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 05:15:31 am »
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Rufio, nudge aint gonna go anywhere anytime real soon. Sorta had it coming if you ask me. For years we had to deal with that shamefully broken 2h lolstab and nobody gave a fuck. Time for you too feel the same. You have my permission to cry.

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 05:48:04 am »
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You selected too many options. For this poll, you may only select 2 options.

Poll is shit. Needs an all of the above option. Every build has something in it that could be considered OP.

1H left swings
lolstabs
nudges
1 hit kills with arbs
1 hit kills with throwing lances
polearms stabbing the dirt/sky to avoid glances
horses in general
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2013, 05:53:20 am »
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Easy mode arbalesters and HX. Both can oneshot me (in the body of course) from a long distance so they suck.

And Plated 1h shielders on a god damn heavy horse
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 06:22:10 am by bagge »
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2013, 05:59:09 am »
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2hander on foot will never ever ever ever be nerfed so everyone spec 2h infantry

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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2013, 06:15:19 am »
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Re: What class is OP
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2013, 08:18:31 am »
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