lance angle, once more :D

[Teeth]

+1

Played (Heavy) Lance cavalry
Played Great Lance cavalry
Played 1h Cavalry with Arabian Cavalry Sword and Paramerion

You buy some length with the lances, but compared to 1h cav they're just complete garbage. Needs some love.

Alternative conclusion: 1h cavalry needs a nerf, the damage output of 1h cav is insane. Getting one shot all the time by people with a mere 6 ps. You see more and more of them on the server, because they are incredibly strong. Half the time they don't even really go fast and yet take a huge chunk out of your hp.

Even I did well as 1h cav and I was incredibly horrible at it, and I was using a Knightly Arming sword.

[San]

Lancer cav seem good enough to me. Play smart and you can even get a rouncey to last round after round. I think a single lancer was way too powerful back then, and melee cav can learn a little bit from archers/infantry for sticking closer together or coordinating paths. Cav classes are some of the easiest to do teamwork with on the fly.

I wish there was a way to make cav v cav fights more interesting. If a horse is running away from you, you're lucky to take 20% damage off if you stab them due to speed bonus/not hitting at the optimal point in the animation. That's the only thing I do not like, since everyone just ends up running away from you.

Can't comment on 1h/2h cav since the 1h I use is too short to keep my rouncey safe.

[Herkkutatti666]

Alternative conclusion: 1h cavalry needs a nerf

instead of nerfing things, lets just buff everything else

[Gurnisson]

Alternative conclusion: 1h cavalry needs a nerf, the damage output of 1h cav is insane. Getting one shot all the time by people with a mere 6 ps. You see more and more of them on the server, because they are incredibly strong. Half the time they don't even really go fast and yet take a huge chunk out of your hp.

Even I did well as 1h cav and I was incredibly horrible at it, and I was using a Knightly Arming sword.

If 1h cav is op, then great lance is definitely op too..

I find lances, especially the heavy one, to be sub-par. Also, you can one-hit with your ashwood + shield or pike with 6-7 ps, I don't see you complaining about that..

[Blueberry Muffin]

Played lancer for a while recently, its not unplayable. Its not great either.

I saw it more as a supporting class, soon as melee engaged I would lance someone for 60-80% hp and bump 3 more down. Then circle round and repeat. No kills, but good for team.

[darmaster]

Alternative conclusion: 1h cavalry needs a nerf, the damage output of 1h cav is insane. Getting one shot all the time by people with a mere 6 ps.

totally agree

Played lancer for a while recently, its not unplayable. Its not great either.

I saw it more as a supporting class, soon as melee engaged I would lance someone for 60-80% hp and bump 3 more down. Then circle round and repeat. No kills, but good for team.

yaya agree, except you don't take 60-80% hps :/

[Lamk]

As a 1h cav, most of my kills are backstabbs because everything can outreach me. Even though I'm using a +3 arabian cavalry shorter things can hit me while I can't.
It is so easy to dehorse any kind of cav except the great lance users. You only need to jump back while swing and there you go you either killed the rider or the horse or even both at the same time.I have done that hundreads of times.By the way, don't nerf horses because my champion destrier can barely survive 3 arrows.

[Riddaren]

There will probably be a lot of whining from ranged infantry and 1H cavalry if the old angles are brought back.
Melee infantry should not be affected that much.

But the biggest concern if the old angle is brought back is probably that the amount of lancers will increase simply because people want to try out the "new" lancer class.

[Gurnisson]

As a 1h cav, most of my kills are backstabbs because everything can outreach me. Even though I'm using a +3 arabian cavalry shorter things can hit me while I can't.

l2p issue mostly.

[darmaster]

no bringing back old angles would be ridiculous, but as other said, 1h cav needs a nerf, seriously.

[sF_Guardian]

Sooooooo I was wondering.... after horses maneuverability,  lethality and survivability, and after lance damage being nerfed again and again,  after couching with thrustable lances not being a real option anymore,  after battlefield awareness of footsoldiers having increased a lot,  after hoplites and pikes having appeared everywhere,  HX  having popped up like little annoying zerglings (seriously,  HA used to be a problem,  now they arent even worthy of a mentioning poor bastards :/),  after 1 and 2h cav having gained the experience and skill to block down...

could we,  for the timeframe of one patch,  restore old lance angle and just see how it does these days?

pretty please?
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Half a year

[Torben]

tbh I dont see the old lance angle as a great solution to a problem probably only lancers see as one : ) 

but,  I would like to see how it would work out in todays battlefield.

[obitus]

BUFF CAV

[TomMyyY]

I'm just going to leave this here.

You might want to skip to like 40 seconds in, this is just some unedited footage I uploaded a while back.

[Herkkutatti666]

I'm just going to leave this here.

You might want to skip to like 40 seconds in, this is just some unedited footage I uploaded a while back.

arab warhorse was so op back then :DD