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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2013, 04:40:18 pm »
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yea looming horse is a must really. only other thing i ever thought to be important is arrow's.
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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2013, 04:52:45 pm »
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yea looming horse is a must really. only other thing i ever thought to be important is arrow's.
That is because you are a GK and you have never fought in melee.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2013, 05:14:51 pm »
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I'm against removing looms, but they sure could use some tweaking. Such as inverting the net gain curve. Getting a +0 to +1 should be more important than a +2 to +3.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2013, 05:19:59 pm »
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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2013, 05:24:05 pm »
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Fix the name of this topic.
The forum ranking system is too unfriendly to new players.
Calling new member a beggar...  :evil:

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2013, 06:28:52 pm »
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Calling new member a beggar...  :evil:

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2013, 06:38:40 pm »
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^ what he said
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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2013, 07:10:13 pm »
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Heirlooms instill a sense of personalization that is a source of pride for most players. If you feel like they are just a meaningless grind, you probably loomed a Kuyak and a Longsword. For instance, there are certain weapons that are rare enough that I am excited when I find one on the battlefield. And I can usually guess the owner due to this rarity. 

I think Final Boss' texture pack has a lot to do with the fun of finding rare heirlooms on the ground; his textures for many weapons look amazing, and I'll equip them just to admire.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2013, 07:20:15 pm »
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Just remove looms. What is the point if having them if everyone has them, except the new players who are at a huge skill and level disadvantage anyway. The only thing looms do is restrict us all in what we can play, if I want to play a Spanish buckler man today and a Viking axeman tomorrow. I can't because I need to trade for a few weeks to get the stuff.

Free freedom, remove looms.

Its the same thing. Instead of the people playing a lot having all +3 items, the people who play a lot are all going to be level 34-36 and destroy new players just like they would with their loomed out gear.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2013, 07:26:22 pm »
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In all honesty.  Looms just make it easier for people to make a build that they wouldn't normally do with that item and still have some fun out of it.  Example: Using a Sword with a str build until the sword was loomed.  Then you could put less into Str and still do similar damage because of the loom.

I like looms mostly because it opens up a whole new way of playing sometimes.  As well as a whole new way to mess with people, Elder Club is my goal.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2013, 07:55:01 pm »
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In all honesty.  Looms just make it easier for people to make a build that they wouldn't normally do with that item and still have some fun out of it.  Example: Using a Sword with a str build until the sword was loomed.  Then you could put less into Str and still do similar damage because of the loom.

I like looms mostly because it opens up a whole new way of playing sometimes.  As well as a whole new way to mess with people, Elder Club is my goal.

To be fair, if people didn't have loomed armor, those agi builds could be viable as they are with a loomed sword.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2013, 08:02:38 pm »
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Heirlooms instill a sense of personalization that is a source of pride for most players. If you feel like they are just a meaningless grind, you probably loomed a Kuyak and a Longsword. For instance, there are certain weapons that are rare enough that I am excited when I find one on the battlefield. And I can usually guess the owner due to this rarity. 

I think Final Boss' texture pack has a lot to do with the fun of finding rare heirlooms on the ground; his textures for many weapons look amazing, and I'll equip them just to admire.

i think you have a good point here - i rarely use gear that's not loomed, but that's because i have been playing for a very long time and i like to use the same items because that's just part of my character by now. Now i actually usually use a kuyak, but thats cause i've loved that armor ever since it was implemented; both stat-wise and looks as it fits my style - but i also use stuff like my +3 quarterstaff which is actually very usble once it's loomed.

As for Final Boss' textures i personally think they are awesome and should be implemented by the devs; that could be combined with an across-the-board loom nerf as people would still be inclined to heirloom their items simply for looks while making the game more playable for new players facing heirloom-crutchers.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2013, 09:17:40 pm »
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Glove looms should give an offensive buff, maybe even the regular armor stats could be tweaked to something else. After I won some loomed gloves, I took nearly twice as many hits.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2013, 10:52:46 pm »
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By the way, I would like to see leg armor buffed. Decrease in weight as loomed would be mighty swell.

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Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2013, 12:50:09 am »
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Just remove looms. What is the point if having them if everyone has them, except the new players who are at a huge skill and level disadvantage anyway. The only thing looms do is restrict us all in what we can play, if I want to play a Spanish buckler man today and a Viking axeman tomorrow. I can't because I need to trade for a few weeks to get the stuff.

Free freedom, remove looms.

well you can give me your looms, like that you can freely change class as you wish!!!!!

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