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Offline sumusiko

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1H+Shield is op.
« on: March 25, 2013, 06:46:13 pm »
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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 06:51:13 pm »
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When you use 2h you have to see and have amazing reflexes to be able to block his incoming attack the bad thing is that even if you do block it they just can keep on swinging without stopping and unless you have a super op attack speed 2h sword you will die a painfull death.
With a balanced build and a SoW, I don't really have an issue preventing a 1h double swing unless I feint, hold, or mess up my footwork. At any rate, unless you have a high ping you are overstating the difficulty of blocking.

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 06:53:11 pm »
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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 06:55:20 pm »
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Nope, it's not.
Once you know how to block the shield is usally just in the way and the dmg is inferior than 2h/pole.

Although the crowd-control is very nice.

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 06:55:22 pm »
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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 06:56:50 pm »
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Nope, it's not.
Once you know how to block the shield is usally just in the way and the dmg is inferior than 2h/pole.

Although the crowd-control is very nice.

The problem with 2h is that even when I manage to block ONCE I can't keep on blocking if he keeps spamming sword unless I have really good reflexes

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 06:58:18 pm »
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Practice makes perfect

You will get better over time, i still suck at blocking and ive been playing since release  :lol:

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 06:58:38 pm »
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The problem with 2h is that even when I manage to block ONCE I can't keep on blocking if he keeps spamming sword unless I have really good reflexes
thats not the problem of your class, you just need to practice some more.

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 06:59:33 pm »
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You just don't know how to abuse 2h :/

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 07:00:36 pm »
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teach me the ways of abusing 2h

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 07:02:45 pm »
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The problem with 2h is that even when I manage to block ONCE I can't keep on blocking if he keeps spamming sword unless I have really good reflexes

Go to EU3 and ask someone for blocking advice and practice with the guys there. Usually some people around who are willing to help a new player out^^

It takes some time, but once you're there you will understand why 2h is superior in most situations =P

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 07:03:34 pm »
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Move left right swing,move right left swing,Backpedalling + stab or just backpedal 7/24 and spam.
Learn retard feints and drop your head down ( in game ofc).
And as everyone said,practice blocking,blocking is easier than holding shield for most of people  :lol:

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 07:18:18 pm »
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The only reason, why they MIGHT be OP is because shielders in siege are score-whores/magnets, as the damage you blog gets added to you score by some mystery formula. Or did that got changed?

Also - learn to kick.

Plus - when blocking, they are slower, thus vulnerable to footwork afaik.

Also - just imagine the guy in prolonged melee UNABLE to manual block and his shield cracking from an onslaught of axes. Few lolstabs and he is gone...

I'd say shields are more or less balanced. There are cases when they are THE guys (e.g. when flag needs to be held for those last 15 seconds and enemy is swarming) and there are cases when they do not work that well, e.g. prolonged melee Vs some axe or Vs horses.

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 07:21:11 pm »
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New player.

First thing he does is claim something is OP.

He will fit right in.

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Re: 1H+Shield is op.
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2013, 07:22:42 pm »
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There's pro's and con's (strengths and weaknesses) for every build.

For 2h you don't have to invest in shield skill, so that's potentially another 3 strength or agility a 2h can have over a 1h/shield.

You move slower with a shield than most items in the game (minus siege equipment).

2h weapons typically do quite a bit more damage, and typically are longer weapons than 1h's.  They also have far better animations (i.e. the length added to the animations for 2h is much longer than 1h)

You generally sound pretty naive, thank you for making a rage/QQ post.

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