Possible Serious Admin Abuse

[Berserkadin]

How can it be delaying for defenders to avoid defeat? It's not freaking EU_1, it's a strat battle where the attackers have to kill the defenders and if you can't then to fucking bad. Clear abuse by someone who obviously can't handle the responsibility to be an admin. I don't want power-tripping ragers who abuse their powers in strat as admins.

[Lt_Anders]

1) Was not there

2) In battle servers,(which those same rules apply to Strat) You can run as MUCH as you want as long as there is 1 other person fighting. As you are not delaying(since you have a teammate who is engaging and killing the guys that aren't chasing you). It is a valid, legal Battle tactic. This same tactic is allowed on strat. Even if the entire team RUNS like chickens, if 2 guys fight, then it's not delaying, regardless of anything else.

3) Common Sense: Would tell me that banning(for 1 hour too) the entire enemy team is not common sense. Period. Don't try and Hide behind this clause and rule on the delaying justification. I've clearly shown that those tactics are not against the rules. Also, if someone insists on just blocking, that's not breaking any rules. Ever heard of shields? They do the same damn thing. If someone has 13 shield skill, and 10 people whack on his shield, he doesn't have to unblock as he's fighting. Regardless of how lame it can be, it's perfectly acceptable.

Revoke the damn admins rights.

[no_rules_just_play]

what are you guys trying to do here? are you trying to scare away the people that dont agree with you buy mass -1'ing them? please give me a -1. Your arguments are total bullshit.

[naduril]

what are you guys trying to do here? are you trying to scare away the people that dont agree with you buy mass -1'ing them? please give me a -1. Your arguments are total bullshit.

And you don't have any arguments at all. So, get my -1.
Admin should be freed from his Admin duties. Once Nebun did it himself just not to be hypocrite in Admin rules. Can't say that about your admin, No_rules.

[the real god emperor]

Why doesnt Cyrus write a defending essay anyway?

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

what are you guys trying to do here? are you trying to scare away the people that dont agree with you buy mass -1'ing them? please give me a -1. Your arguments are total bullshit.

Yeah, you guys are -1ing me without responding, your arguments are bullshit and you're trying to scare me away, stop it hre.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/possible-serious-admin-abuse/msg749371/#msg749371

BTW: Kesh, remember to -1 me with your girlfriends account too.

[MURDERTRON]

Why doesnt Cyrus write a defending essay anyway?

Because admins don't have to answer to anyone.

[Holiday203]

Rable, Rable, Rable! LOUD NOISES! I WAS THERE!

[Nightingale]

Both sides were naked? and both were without weapons... only logical choice is obviously perma bans for everyone.

Cyrus's actions should be reviewed by an higher admin not by people that hate him for whatever reason, and the battle should be replayed. Since it was a bug in the first place that caused everyone to be naked.

[Wolfsblood]

ban strat

[Blackzilla]

I hope I don't get banned for doing some tks there, it was lame tought I wouldn't say those guys weren't fighting, but they were just delaying with holding blocks all the time at flags and arround there and trying to get flags up... at least thats what I saw (was in Guards team)

You just admitted that they were participating in the fight by getting their flags up or atleast trying too. Point being, you admitted they were fighting and participating.

what are you guys trying to do here? are you trying to scare away the people that dont agree with you buy mass -1'ing them? please give me a -1. Your arguments are total bullshit.

Where ever I post, Kesh's -1's follow. You'll get used to it.

[no_rules_just_play]

Yeah, you guys are -1ing me without responding, your arguments are bullshit and you're trying to scare me away, stop it hre.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/possible-serious-admin-abuse/msg749371/#msg749371

BTW: Kesh, remember to -1 me with your girlfriends account too.

we do, look at the numerous posts with -9 and lower

[Shemaforash]

kesh's constant -1

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[Duster]

we do, look at the numerous posts with -9 and lower

Ever stop and think that maybe their posts are -9 and lower because they're absolute garbage? I almost never -1 posts unless they are absolutely stupid, but defending this admin abuse is right up there. How about you make an actual post other than "omg stop -1ing my clanmates".

[Blackzilla]

we do, look at the numerous posts with -9 and lower

Aye I see those post by Bjarky. My opinion might be seen as biased but I believe he is wrong in both post.

You are quite right there sir. The naked bug fist fight battle was quite fun when we all engaged eachother.

But when one team tries to gain benefits through a bug (by delaying and avoiding fights in order to gain more tickets in the end), you do break one of the very first rules under:
General Rules: http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

• No exploiting of any kind:
• NOT OK: Using a bug to gain undeserved benefits.

And the admin dealt with it accordingly, nullifying the benefit by banning ppl for a short time so noone could rejoin (warnings and kicking didn't seem to help).

At least none of the teams lost their gear after the battle (and i only looted our goods Heroin tried to run off with), was a weird bug, we where both shiny armed and it could have been a nice little scrim.

I don't see them abusing a bug. I don't see how they could've possibly used the "not getting any of your strat gear bug" to an advantage. Delaying and avoiding fights is not a bug. The screens show people fighting and dying so I don't see the delaying. In your other post you say how you cant keep their flags down, so they are clearing participating and defending flags, I don't see them avoiding a scuffle. They were defenders trying to hold out as long as possible until you were forced to retreat.

I'm sorry but I don't see how trying to survive for the final few minutes so the attackers are forced to retreat, then killing the last ones on the field and winning, can be seen as exploiting.  The fact that attackers retreat when the time runs out is intended isn't it?

Yes with normal gear it is, but do to the fact of the naked bug it is near impossible to hunt ppl down or keep the flags down.
The admin told ppl to fight and engage, wich was not taken seriously by the defenders.

I didn't know that the rules automatically change into someone else favor when the database messes up and NO ONE gets gear.

Are you happy now no rules? Your name is very contradicting to the way you participate in this community. (I've seen your ban threads, there are a lot of them iirc)

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-edited this part, apparently I double posted. Sorry-

Also, I find it utterly hilarious to see a few posters in here claiming injustice. A couple of you openly supported the admin abuse done to the FCC and when the FCC brought it up, these same people called them all whiners.

Special shout-out to Blackzilla. ;)

I just noticed this, but Gmnotutoo, this is different, this is European admins being biased against NA players. If you're a true patriot of North America, you'll see the injustice by these Europeans!(not all of them are bad, just the ones who disagree with me (sarcasm))

Ever stop and think that maybe their posts are -9 and lower because they're absolute garbage? I almost never -1 posts unless they are absolutely stupid, but defending this admin abuse is right up there. How about you make an actual post other than "omg stop -1ing my clanmates".

Why don't you +1 your clanmates and friends?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?