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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2013, 07:54:14 am »
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This will not solve kiting. Just saying.

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2013, 08:22:26 am »
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This will not solve kiting. Just saying.
You could also bring some arguments :)

About long time running: it's basically what every class can do now and removing it from a class that needs it the most is not very good.
With this implemented archers would think before running (yeah most of them would decide running) and there would be no runaways with them in the end of the round, i mean it would be just the same as with any other class, they won't be able to fight back = delaying.

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2013, 08:32:16 am »
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kiting a problem? lol 

(well it's a problem for stupid 2h hero that doesn't want to invest in either a lot of AGI or a shield but it never was a game problem...)

HA and HX can still do it all they want... absurb weight on arrows didn't solve anything...

my 2 cent.
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 08:41:26 am »
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kiting a problem? lol 
You probably didn't play on EU 1/4 in times of that inescapable and annoying force. I don't know how was that in NA servers though.

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2013, 08:48:14 am »
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I dont see a problem with continued nerfs against cav and ranged.

What is going to happen? Are they all going to GTX?   No more oneshotted to the head or instacouched in the back?

The greatest melee game of all time, and a big part of the population spend hours just ruining it for others.

Just makes me sad

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2013, 08:50:22 am »
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2013, 08:55:00 am »
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Hey Tindel... there was some time ago... a melee only server and guess what?!

It died! Because no one went to play there...  :rolleyes:
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2013, 08:57:51 am »
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No, seriously. How are cav and archers ruining the game for you? lol.
If you get couched in your back - you suck.
If you get shot - in 70% it means you suck, other 30% is a random factor which any battle should have.
So maybe instead of complaining about other classes you should learn to resist and fight them?

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2013, 09:00:17 am »
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The melee only server was a battle server, with low cap. Thats more likely the reason it was empty all the time.

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2013, 09:06:46 am »
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Hmm let's see battle server are currently the most popular server... Yeah you're wrong...

Low cap? Did someone ever ask to get a bigger melee only server? Hmm guess not.

Why? because it was never full in the first place...  :rolleyes:

Wrong again.. go back to the drawing board...
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2013, 09:15:14 am »
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Can't see a problem here, neither with archery nor cav... and you know why?

Cuz EU1 still has both of them in a good amount.

Everyone keeps saying "u suck0r when shot or couched lulz"... How about I say "u suck0r cuz u can't/don't want to adapt to the changes done to your gear lulz"?

When lots just keep playing and a few spam the forum with QQ... probably the few have an issue of being not willing to adapt.
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2013, 09:18:22 am »
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Keep archers slow or this will be all of us after being kited for 3 minutes

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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2013, 09:23:48 am »
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Show me how archers are nerfed. The average damage went up with everyone using Longbows. More damage from a random stray arrow in the head than a Long Bardiche to the face. Biggest stagger in the game regardless of damage dealt. Loads of great 0 slot weapon options. Everyone got a speed boost last patch so your small amount of weight is not hindering you as much as before.

Make the ranged mechanics have >10% of the depth of melee mechanics and maybe then you can start having kiting as well. Until then they need to be more like melee guys with some support ranged damage, or other ways to limit the cheese factor. Ranged is crutch mode for players that don't want to be challenged in pvp, its freaking lame

EU1 is already a shield fest now and it dilutes the combat. Hold right mouse to block any direction, with no stamina mechanic so nothing stopping people turtling. The majority on the battlefield should be melee, with some cav and some of all other classes. But not super easy mode ranged fest, its boring
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Re: By nerfing archery you are breaking the game (+ solution for kiting)
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2013, 09:24:01 am »
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No, seriously. How are cav and archers ruining the game for you? lol.
If you get couched in your back - you suck.
If you get shot - in 70% it means you suck, other 30% is a random factor which any battle should have.
So maybe instead of complaining about other classes you should learn to resist and fight them?

Nice numbers, very far from reality though.

In reality 50% of all ranged damage is from teammates. And of the remaining its mostly shots fired while in combat so not many chances to dodge.

And when you do get into melee with a rangedguy, its just meh cause most of them cant fight back :/
The new swords are helping a bit.