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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 03:09:01 am »
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Which again goes to prove that people just don't want ranged at all.

Or rather, they want ranged that cannot hurt anyone and is incapable of defending themselves in melee.

Not that I'm against this concept per se, but at least I'm blunt about it.

Seriously guys, stop bitching and just come join us on the melee only server.  It's way better in here.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 03:15:33 am »
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Which again goes to prove that people just don't want ranged at all.
Or rather, they want ranged that cannot hurt anyone and is incapable of defending themselves in melee.

No.. 

The point of my thread is very simple.

We just dont wanna end up looking like a Christmas tree decorated with bolts and arrows and what not before we are able to take a swing. like pre-patch
« Last Edit: May 02, 2011, 03:19:30 am by Tzar »
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 04:42:47 am »
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Hybrid archers can only carry HALF the arrows they could before. You undermine your own foundation for argument when you say something that is demonstrably wrong. Spam will never return to pre-patch days.
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 05:29:22 am »
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Which again goes to prove that people just don't want ranged at all.

Or rather, they want ranged that cannot hurt anyone and is incapable of defending themselves in melee.

Not that I'm against this concept per se, but at least I'm blunt about it.

Seriously guys, stop bitching and just come join us on the melee only server.  It's way better in here.

Maybe people would finally be happy if ranged had to ask permission to fire at them first (in essay form), then in melee was only allowed to tickle you with feathers.  No, nevermind, I'm sure there would then be threads popping up whining for archers to have smaller feathers...
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 05:35:23 am »
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We just dont wanna end up looking like a Christmas tree decorated with bolts and arrows and what not before we are able to take a swing. like pre-patch

So.... ranged has to go away.  Right, like I said.

Stop pussyfooting around the bush and just come out and say it.  You'll feel better.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 12:40:15 pm »
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Maybe people would finally be happy if ranged had to ask permission to fire at them first (in essay form), then in melee was only allowed to tickle you with feathers.  No, nevermind, I'm sure there would then be threads popping up whining for archers to have smaller feathers...

Do your have trouble reading?? or u just spur out random shit while typing?

This thread clearly is a concern about people picking up the regular xbow and use that instead of the sniper and thus the ranged spam fest begins again.. nothing to do with archers
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 01:21:32 pm »
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Yes...and the best xbows take two slots already, your point?

I was under the impression the person writing this post meant that ALL xbows only take up 1 slot.

Working as intended and working fine imo if the 2 best xbows use 2 slots.

Sorry for causing a stink.

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 02:30:33 pm »
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I feel your pain from so called dedicated xbow men even tho i doubt they existed pre-patch.  :lol:

I originally started in cRPG by plodding around as your standard pure 2h or Polearm build spamming and getting kills.  However, I was becoming increasingly annoyed by those pesky sniper crossbows.  So, I trained a dedicated crossbowman.  One of the first things that struck me was the fact that those on the receiving end of my bolts only seemed to notice the bolts that hit them.

For example, I would miss my first two shots, then score a lucky headshot on the third.  The target would then promptly GTX, then post some babble about crossbows/ranged being overpowered.  I realised the target behaved exactly as I had done in the past.  It's a good lesson to learn.  You cannot truly comment on balance until you have first hand experience of each end of the spectrum. 

The 'melee' only server amuses me to no end.  At least the hatred of Ranged is historical.  You may spend your entire life honing the arts of war, but one day some filthy peasant puts a bolt in your chest and all that training counts for naught.  Cue prideful wrath.

If you are melee, remember;  For every projectile that hits you, as many as ten have missed.  Strafe more, get a shield, or use freelook to spot the ranged aiming at you.
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 04:57:23 pm »
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If you are melee, remember;  For every projectile that hits you, as many as ten have missed.  Strafe more, get a shield, or use freelook to spot the ranged aiming at you.
The problem is not begin hit by missiles when you walk across a field. The problem is that you are being shot while in melee and people using the heavier crossbows as a shotgun from short range and switch to their 2H/pole to continue the melee.

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 05:01:54 pm »
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oh almighty chadz, please make it two slots
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2011, 05:54:15 pm »
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The problem is not begin hit by missiles when you walk across a field. The problem is that you are being shot while in melee and people using the heavier crossbows as a shotgun from short range and switch to their 2H/pole to continue the melee.

Why is this a problem?  If the crossbow is loaded why not use it?  A shotgun fires many projectiles, a crossbow fires one.  I don't see the issue with using it at close range.
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2011, 05:56:57 pm »
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Never carried a shield. Never had any problem with archers / xbows. L2P...?
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2011, 06:42:29 pm »
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Never carried a shield. Never had any problem with archers / xbows. L2P...?

Heh.... clearly your the best player in c-RPG and are immune to xbows good for you..

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I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2011, 04:20:12 pm »
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xbows don't need to get changed to 2 slots they might do a lot of damage but they don't reload all that fast.
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Re: Make the crossbow take up 2 slots before its too late
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2011, 05:46:50 pm »
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Think also from a physical point of view: could a man carry a 2h weapon/polearm, a crossbow and some bolts?
If the crossbow is not too big, yes.