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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 09:12:19 pm »
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First, by changing the time needed to switch weapon modes,
Second, by removing jumpthrowing,
Third by overpowering shields

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Tell me cus ive got no clue :(

Awww poor guy! Welcome to archery....

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2013, 09:34:04 pm »
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Awww poor guy! Welcome to archery....
Acting like archery is more UP than throwing. *facepalm*
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2013, 09:36:38 pm »
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RIP throwers.  :cry:
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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 01:37:59 am »
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Acting like archery is more UP than throwing. *facepalm*

wow you missed that completely didn't you....i was saying welcome to archery as in it gets nerfed a shit ton.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 08:16:53 pm »
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Oh I am quite aware of his opinion as he keeps ragepolling me when I shoot him and he keeps punching me as soon as he is in my team  :lol:

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 08:18:51 pm »
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wow you missed that completely didn't you....i was saying welcome to archery as in it gets nerfed a shit ton.
Regardless of whether 2h got -1 damage across all weapons every patch then they still would be quite powerful for a while, and they wouldn't have any grounds for saying "welcome to 2h" every time something else gets nerfed.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2013, 08:29:02 pm »
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Like I've said many times before; nerfing by restricting what you can do is really bad. So is decreasing game speed and accuracy.
This applies to all classes.

It had been much better to decrease the ammo and/or damage of the throwing weapons.

Not only does jump throwing make sense. It takes skill and makes it far more exciting to play as a thrower.
Throwing is boring now compared to before. That is not how you should go about when nerfing.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 08:29:40 pm »
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Like I've said many times before; nerfing by restricting what you can do is really bad. So is decreasing game speed and accuracy.
This applies to all classes.

It had been much better to decrease the ammo and/or damage of the throwing weapons.
Nope, this would be freaking horrible.
Not only does jump throwing make sense. It takes skill and makes it far more exciting to play as a thrower.
Throwing is boring now compared to before. That is not how you should go about when nerfing.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 08:33:53 pm »
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Zlisch, maybe not both.

But if you decrease the ammo, you would probably get less throwers and the ones remaining would be the good ones.
After that you can increase the damage instead.

Atleast I was very succesful as a thrower with only 4 throwing lances.

A class should not get nerfed because a few really good players are "op" but maybe that's how it works.
With that said, the majority of crpg players suck, no matter what class they play and that has always been the case.
And that is also what I like about crpg, what is left off it, that there is a huge difference between good and bad players.
It makes it more challening and is also the reason I'm hooked. I would hate a game were everyone are equally good. How fucking boring.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 08:38:43 pm by Riddaren »

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2013, 08:33:57 pm »
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It was easy, find some non shielder to throw too....but more and more people have shields


It probably looked kind of like this:

2h: olololo blaacne taem !!!
balance team: How can we help ?
2h: nurf dem throwerz plix plox
balance team: why
2h: cuz he throws and then like he hit in melee before I oneshot him omgwtf lol good joke
balance team: But he is supposed to be switching weapon modes with throwing weapons and be able to hit you in melee. You have the better melee build and should be able to fight him just fine.
2h: teh fuq if i spam mah danish i has to get dem kills ! iz justicce !!!!1
balance team: Oh you are are 2h ? In that case, consider it done sir. Thank you for reporting this issue.

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You should hear Teeth on ts talking about op throwers  :lol:

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2013, 08:37:30 pm »
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Or keep the jumpthrow, but make it super mega inaccurate and lower the dmg done while throwing mid air.

Good thing to even it up would be to add 2 slot throwing stuff. Like, i dont know, the throwing spears could be 8 ammo 2 slots. So in the end you can pull out a 0 slot short sword like all the other ranged class do now.

In my opinion the biggest fun factor nerf throwing class got it when they removed axes sticking on the player they it. After playing like 7 gen i was still entertained when i threw an axe in the face of a dude, he kept running at me and killed me with the axe stuck between his eyes.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2013, 08:39:10 pm »
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Zlisch, maybe not both.

But if you decrease the ammo, you would probably get less throwers and the ones remaining would be the good ones.
After that you can increase the damage instead.

Atleast I was very succesful as a thrower with only 4 throwing lances.

A class should not get nerfed because a few really good players are "op" but maybe that's how it works.
With that said, the majority of crpg players suck, no matter what class they play and that has always been the case.
Riddaren, decreasing the ammo or the damage will royally screw throwers even worse, my throwing lances as is often don't onehit light armored archers I'm riding towards full speed, and we already got so low amounts of ammo that we can easily waste four slots on successful hits (hitting the body, not the legs, horses, arms, or shield) and still not have a decent score or kd.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2013, 08:40:51 pm »
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Shields op against throwing? IMO it feels as if throwing ignores my shield completely almost everytime i face a thrower :( All the throwing nerfs are still stoopid and something has to be done to buff this beautifully annoying class!
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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2013, 08:44:42 pm »
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Shields op against throwing? IMO it feels as if throwing ignores my shield completely almost everytime i face a thrower :( All the throwing nerfs are still stoopid and something has to be done to buff this beautifully annoying class!

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Re: What was the reason for nerfing throwers 3 times?
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2013, 08:45:42 pm »
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Riddaren, decreasing the ammo or the damage will royally screw throwers even worse, my throwing lances as is often don't onehit light armored archers I'm riding towards full speed, and we already got so low amounts of ammo that we can easily waste four slots on successful hits (hitting the body, not the legs, horses, arms, or shield) and still not have a decent score or kd.

Well, horse throwing is clearly underpowered and has always been afaik.
It's also a shame that you don't get speed bonus for throwing while riding towards the target.
IMO hitting someone with a throwing lance should 1 hit kill most of the time if hitting body or head (ofc), given it penetrates.

My horse (destrier) sometimes takes only 1/4 damage from throwing lances. That is wrong.