Paramerion is OP

[LordRichrich]

I'd just like to point out, that being a players for 2 years and some months, I've only just hit over 100k on a single char.
Upkeep IS important to take into account, you can't balance around those who have gold to throw away!

I suggest, rather radically, make it 2 slots. Yes, it's OP for its price etc. But if it were 2 slots, it couldn't be used by proper hoplites etc

This will probably get a shit tonne of down votes, but oh well ^^

My idea stems from 2h's. You want to be pure 2h? Sure, take a great sword. You want to be 2h with xbow or bow? You gotta take a slightly inferior 2h!

So you want to be pure 1h? Sure take a better 1h! You want a spear aswell? Can't have the best of both worlds! Sorry!

[Zaren]

I'd just like to point out, that being a players for 2 years and some months, I've only just hit over 100k on a single char.
Upkeep IS important to take into account, you can't balance around those who have gold to throw away!

I suggest, rather radically, make it 2 slots. Yes, it's OP for its price etc. But if it were 2 slots, it couldn't be used by proper hoplites etc

This will probably get a shit tonne of down votes, but oh well ^^

My idea stems from 2h's. You want to be pure 2h? Sure, take a great sword. You want to be 2h with xbow or bow? You gotta take a slightly inferior 2h!

So you want to be pure 1h? Sure take a better 1h! You want a spear aswell? Can't have the best of both worlds! Sorry!

2 slots? lol no. And are you telling me that you have played for 2 years and have only 100k to show for it? what the fuck

[LordRichrich]

2 slots? lol no. And are you telling me that you have played for 2 years and have only 100k to show for it? what the fuck

Yeah, I measure my fun in gold too -.-

I don't hoard, I give money out, I buy equip, resell it, buy it again a few weeks later etc etc
I play the game for fun, not for gold

[Zaren]

Yeah, I measure my fun in gold too -.-

I don't hoard, I give money out, I buy equip, resell it, buy it again a few weeks later etc etc
I play the game for fun, not for gold

since you only have 100k ill assume you are talking about normal weapons.....you buy normal weapons and then sell them back to buy them later? genius right here


i couldnt give a shit about gold, I give a shit about looms and what buys looms? gold

[LordRichrich]

since you only have 100k ill assume you are talking about normal weapons.....you buy normal weapons and then sell them back to buy them later? genius right here


i couldnt give a shit about gold, I give a shit about looms and what buys looms? gold

Yeah normal weapons. I think "meh, I don't like this anymore" then I realise I do
I'm not playing an economy sim here lol

So you care about something other than the enjoyment of the game itself, I don't. Which was my point

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

So you care about something other than the enjoyment of the game itself, I don't. Which was my point

Which is why upkeep and looms are horrible features, one rewards a guy who has played for a long time in something else than enjoyment, the other forces potential boredom in order to enjoy the game providing you prefer to use more expensive gear.

[Zaren]

Yeah normal weapons. I think "meh, I don't like this anymore" then I realise I do
I'm not playing an economy sim here lol

So you care about something other than the enjoyment of the game itself, I don't. Which was my point

I personally enjoy the economy...do what you want, but having 100k is your own fault not upkeeps

[Tydeus]

LordRichrich, the not so rich, apparently.

Cost is indeed a useful balancing tool but outside of strategus, its usefulness is rather limited. Minor variance in cost really has no effect on item usage anyway.

[LordRichrich]

I personally enjoy the economy...do what you want, but having 100k is your own fault not upkeeps

I never said it was upkeeps fault -.-
Just that gold is still an issue for people

And on another note, the game isn't primarily an economy sim, it's a melee sim. So the work should go into the fighting, not the economy. Just like ARMA, it's a modern combat sim, but you can drive cars in it. Doesn't mean they'll develop the game around that aspect.

[Phew]

I never said it was upkeeps fault -.-
Just that gold is still an issue for people

Devs have smartly added a feature for people like you; you can sell an heirloom point every now and then and never have to worry about gold. It takes what, like 80 hours per heirloom point, and selling that one heirloom point can fund any build except heavy cav for several gens.

[Joseph Porta]

LordRichrich, the not so rich, apparently.

Cost is indeed a useful balancing tool but outside of strategus, its usefulness is rather limited. Minor variance in cost really has no effect on item usage anyway.

Especially with weapons. 

[LordRichrich]

Devs have smartly added a feature for people like you; you can sell an heirloom point every now and then and never have to worry about gold. It takes what, like 80 hours per heirloom point, and selling that one heirloom point can fund any build except heavy cav for several gens.

Goddamn it, when did I say that I don't have ENOUGH gold? When did I say things were too expensive? All I mentioned was that upkeep does matter, because of the 30+ posts saying it DOESN'T. It wasn't a cry for help. And why would you even think that a player of 2.5 years + WOULDN'T know that?
I'm sorry for the reply, but it's 5am, and I get sick of how far some peoples heads are up their own arses on cRPG, and the internet in general, sometimes.

[Ronin]

Yes Upkeep matters, now comment on my suggestion you nabs.