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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2013, 12:02:22 am »
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get IF or get more agility. at least i would to that. 8 shield is too much,i would rather roll with 5 or 6 and 1 wm is also bad investment.
Get max wm or none,spending 2 or 3 points in wm will not make any difference.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2013, 12:07:50 am »
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Oprah i have 0 wm and 111wm and i wear from heraldic trans to leather jerkin. There isn't any difference in speed and dmg i need same amount of hits to kill.
If you have problems with speed when fighting someone put shield on back or drop it and fight in melee. All problems solved.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2013, 01:38:23 am »
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I'll jump in since I have my build currently at 20/21. Going for a 21/21 at 33.

I like it so far plus I hybrided with 1h and xbow. I like the flexibility to shoot stuff in sieges and then be 1h/shield in field battles (I never do well as an xbow in field battles). 6 PS is enough but I'll have 7 at 33 so I'll be fine with that.

Currently my build is:

6PS
5 shield
7 Ath
7 WM

with 121 1h wpf and 133 xbow wpf.

Its not bad but I don't know what I'll do beyond 33. Maybe some IF or more shield. Perhaps riding? I don't know.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2013, 02:12:51 am »
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More IF and Shieldskill.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2013, 03:15:31 pm »
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More IF and Shieldskill.

I think Taser uses a loomed Board Shield, doubt that breaks much even with 5 shield skill. Although 6 shield skill with a loomed shield starts to become nigh-unbreakable against anything but axes.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2013, 08:47:34 pm »
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More weapon master and polearm wpf. So you can be a hoplite! Also more ironflesh, and some riding too :D
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2013, 05:56:23 pm »
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33: +3 WM (4)
34: +3 WM (7)
35: +1 WM (8) +2 IF (2)

Enough WM to be a good crossbowman as well.
Either that or invest 5-7 into riding.

Investing in IF (6) seems like a bad idea as a shielder with 8 shield skill.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2013, 06:40:08 pm »
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you just need to sidestep and right swing.

try this against experienced cavalry who know what they're doing, you will lose that duel.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2013, 07:23:04 pm »
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Oprah i have 0 wm and 111wm and i wear from heraldic trans to leather jerkin. There isn't any difference in speed and dmg i need same amount of hits to kill.
If you have problems with speed when fighting someone put shield on back or drop it and fight in melee. All problems solved.


WM, not wpf  :wink:  3WM is about 130-ish wpf and the difference between 1wpf and 100 is 7.5%
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2013, 02:34:31 am »
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try this against experienced cavalry who know what they're doing, you will lose that duel.

In my experience, I win this duel way more often then I lose it.


WM, not wpf  :wink:  3WM is about 130-ish wpf and the difference between 1wpf and 100 is 7.5%

There is a good chance its in my head, but I notice a big difference.

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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2013, 03:05:08 am »
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Yeah, against bad cavalry.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2013, 07:51:01 am »
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try this against experienced cavalry who know what they're doing, you will lose that duel.
In some situations, no matter how experienced the cav is, he has no chance, just because riding a horse limits  maneuverability.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2013, 01:23:36 pm »
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Hmm that is true macropus, but a good cav shouldn't be charging just like that. I personally try to manuever before the enemy infantry manuevers. So at least I can reduce the effectiveness of a possible strafe move. Or we move to opposite directions and no one gets hurt.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2013, 01:38:36 pm »
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In some situations, no matter how experienced the cav is, he has no chance, just because riding a horse limits  maneuverability.
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Starting to feel it's rather clear cavalry players are rather bad here in cRPG. All you have to do is ensure that your enemy is unable to reach your horse when attacking with a lance. Which is NOT DIFFICULT.

PS: If someone is attacking in the image like that, they're bad.
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Re: Progression from 32 -> 35 ... suggestions? (18/24 shielder)
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 06:51:58 pm »
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I would agree that a good cav should never die like this. One who maneuvers properly, angling  to ensure his lance is on the correct side, while at the same time flaring away slightly at time of impact so that the 1h with short weapon cannot reach the horse. there are A LOT of bad or lazy cav out there tho, who dont bother to maneuver properly cuz they are just so used to backstabbing people offering no resistance that they are surprised when an alert and clever infantryman actually fights back.