Ultimate Weaboo Bitch Post

[Zergmar]

If katana was 1 slot, it would be used as sidearm for every single archer and xbowman.

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[Tennenoth]

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If katana was 1 slot, it would be used as sidearm for every single archer and xbowman.
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I would never weaboo up! Lies I tell you! I would stay with the pathetic nordic champions sword and would even us my long dagger over such a rediculous weapon!  [quote

[Siiem]

The whole katana is too weak thingy is just lies. With enough strength even 1h swords can kill in 2 or 3 hits. And str builds with a insanely fast 2h is bad enough.

Compromise here, give it the same damage rating as a longsword but nerf the speed to 97. Then it would be used by ninjas and shogunhates without beeing abused too death by everyone else.

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[Banok]

I'd be well up for something like that siiem, but your saying same damage less speed and less length than longsword. so this is what I suggest.

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miadao
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 96
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 115

proposed katana stats
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 97
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 95

greatsword
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 124

[Peasant_Woman]

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miadao
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 96
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 115

proposed katana stats
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 97
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 95

greatsword
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
weapon length: 124

proposed katana stats
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 97
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 38 cut
weapon length: 95

I feel this would be a little more balanced due to miaodao not having stab, yet having +20 reach and only -1 speed.

[PikeDan]

Agree!

But why oh why did you nerf it's damage and speed? 

A lot of 1h have better reach... and way better thrusting damage...

We get what?

a little speed (one or 2 point) and better slashing damage for less reach, 2 slot and sucking thrusting damage?!!?

Spiked maces are one slot and are slightly slower and shorter than a Katana, but do 30 B damage. There are options out there if you're willing to not look like a speshul spamurai.

Also, Fighting axes are also a single slot and are a 1h/2h. The stats escape me at the moment, but it's a lovely weapon as well.

[Banok]

proposed katana stats
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 97
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 38 cut
weapon length: 95

I feel this would be a little more balanced due to miaodao not having stab, yet having +20 reach and only -1 speed.

fair enuf, but the miaodao is a gimped weapon imo. I prefer comparing my suggested stats an overpowered weapon, the danish greatsword. question then is: is 5 more speed worth -29 reach? the answer of course is no but at least katana has style and 3 less requirement going for it.

[Dravic]

No, DON'T RAISE STR REQ FOR KATANA!

It is one of last weapons which can be used by agi characters.

Either don't raise str req or remove agility entirely, atm it is senseless to go for agi if you know you can't use a chosen weapon...

[Meensai]

Well i think it'd be a good compromise like this...

Katana
difficulty: 13(instead of 12)
speed rating: 99(instead of 101[ or even faster])
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut (instead of 38)
weapon length: 105 (instead of 95)

Fair and realistic.

[Ujin]

Well i think it'd be a good compromise like this...

Katana
difficulty: 13(instead of 12)
speed rating: 99(instead of 101[ or even faster])
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut (instead of 38)
weapon length: 105 (instead of 95)

Fair and realistic.

This seems most logical to me so far ,except for balance purposes i'd reduce the pierce to 21-22.

[Ninja_Khorin]

So essentially a remodelled longsword.

I guess. But I would miss the style and feel of the weapon, the disadvantage in length is one of the more fun parts about the weapon... 

I've spent my entire cRPG time being a katana wielder(I got 4 characters that use it) and I wouldn't want to see it turned in to just another longsword/heavy bastard/two handed sword carbon copy.
Making something the same as something else creates good balance, but not interesting gameplay.