My struggle with ironflesh.

[LordRichrich]

Why should arrows stun and make someone stand in one place for ages when melee hits don't?

Because of the sheer rage your character feels some my old friendcher just shot him! It locks him in place!

[Kafein]

Solution : play siege naked and stop caring about your deaths. My skill also way increased doing this. I basically went the reverse path, except the hiltslashing and IF bit. Also I hate your guts for how you play slaphead.

[Miwiw]

So, you dont get ministunned by melee hits like I get? Is it like that? If you get hit in melee, you also cannot directly hit back obviously. So where's the difference then?

[Kafein]

So, you dont get ministunned by melee hits like I get? Is it like that? If you get hit in melee, you also cannot directly hit back obviously. So where's the difference then?

I assume that if you played cRPG for the amount of time you seem you did, you must have been shot at least once. Which leads me to the conclusion this quoted post is pure trolling.

[Gurnisson]

All weapons should do that, ask devs to add it.

Yes, polestagger to all weapons!

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Are you retarded?

[Miwiw]

I assume that if you played cRPG for the amount of time you seem you did, you must have been shot at least once. Which leads me to the conclusion this quoted post is pure trolling.

I dont see the difference:

melee hits < - > arrow hits

[Panos]

I dont see the difference:

melee hits < - > arrow hits

Yes, because getting hit by a poleaxe its the same thing getting hit by an arrow..

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I dont see the difference:

melee hits < - > arrow hits

For real? Getting stunned up to a full second, unable to block by a ranged hit is the same as the stun from a melee hit?

[Kafein]

Yes, polestagger to all weapons!

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Are you retarded?

I'm not sure it would work alright globally, but at least that would mean less people surviving minutes in melee while surrounded by 15 enemies thanks to IF and armor.

I dont see the difference:

melee hits < - > arrow hits

Non-polearm melee hits don't stop movement (polearms stop movement) and only stun for a very short time (I'd say about 250ms by gut feeling). You have to see the blow coming and release before it lands in order to score a follow up hit on someone hit by a melee weapon. Projectile hits prevent movement, blocking and attacking for about a second (again, I am not sure at all about the numbers, but it is several times longer than the regular melee stun). Now I hope you see the problem.

[Miwiw]

I actual never feel a difference. But that's maybe just my PC.

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melee hits are usually hitting harder though, most times I dont care about any arrow, most archers dont cause as much dmg as 2h/pole users do

[Son Of Odin]

I actual never feel a difference. But that's maybe just my PC.

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melee hits are usually hitting harder though, most times I dont care about any arrow, most archers dont cause as much dmg as 2h/pole users do

Arrow hit locks you into one place for a good second (atleast it feels like it) whereas when you get hit by a melee weapon you can still continue walking even if you can't hit or block for a split second. Haven't really closely looked into this but I'd guess melee hit only stuns attack/block and doesn't prevent other movement...

[Grumbs]

I actual never feel a difference. But that's maybe just my PC.

melee hits are usually hitting harder though, most times I dont care about any arrow, most archers dont cause as much dmg as 2h/pole users do

Anything in the head from ranged is 1 or 2 shots. Bodies 2,3,4,5 depending on what shot you, how far away they are and random factors

Its like comparing a pike with rather than 300 range to a pike with 3,000,000 range though, and even then its only blocked by a shield rather than easily blocked like melee is. You just can't compare damage to melee when melee is up close rather than at any range

[Blueberry Muffin]

I reckon archers should have more opportunity to use melee...

I dont mind xbowman so much, cause they see you and aim, you dodge around and then they either hit or miss. Then its into a melee fight where you have an advantage. The xbowman trades some melee capability to allow him to take that shot first, but the back up plan is fighting after the shot for 99% of xbowman.

Archers dont do this, they kite and they stand on hills so they will never have to draw their melee weapon. The playstyle breeds a mentality in which player such as shokoshugi are brought into the game. Watching him, or robinhood, or any other archer just run and run and run; shooting arrows again and again until the opponent is dead is just a sad thing to see.

[Miwiw]

I dont mind xbowman so much, cause they see you and aim, you dodge around and then they either hit or miss. Then its into a melee fight where you have an advantage. The xbowman trades some melee capability to allow him to take that shot first, but the back up plan is fighting after the shot for 99% of xbowman.

So, you like having an advantage and getting an easy kill. So after all you are an archer as well. You say they run and they are not fair playing at all, but what you expect them to do, is dying. You seem to be concentrated on winning alone. Typical.

Nothing more to say.

[Panos]

So, you like having an advantage and getting an easy kill. So after all you are an archer as well. You say they run and they are not fair playing at all, but what you expect them to do, is dying. You seem to be concentrated on winning alone. Typical.

Nothing more to say.

Instead of blaming him for saying "easy kill", blame all the archers than can`t melee shit.

for fuck sake, even GK`s can block more times than most archers..