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Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« on: April 29, 2011, 05:43:49 pm »
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What weapon am I supposed to use with my Steel Shielder now (9 str)? Elite scimitar - 11 req. Iberian mace - I considered it as a weapon to go for IF i will go with 12 str. Now it has... 13 (!!!) diff. I can't use it. Winged mace - can't use. Even the hated by me SCIMITAR, the LAST WEAPON I would ever use, has TOO BIG REQ.


WTF!

I can't play my shielder without a weapon with AT LEAST 97 length and LESS than 10 req. + it can't have a thrust, otherwise I hate it. I HATE 1h thrust. Weapon with thrust isn't a weapon for me, if it comes to 1h.

What am I supposed to do? Not play cRPG? OK.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 05:45:14 pm »
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Uhh, I have to add this in another post so everyone see it.


Good job with nerfing agi characters further, now they can't use proper weapon without going for OP str build...

Less than 9 athletics is str build for me. I can't use any of my fav weapons with my fav build. Wtf?

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 06:01:48 pm »
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Less than 9 athletics is str build for me

Umm..ok.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 06:18:28 pm »
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I mean, I always used 9 or more athletics. If I HAVE to go for 12 str... I'm out.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2011, 06:20:10 pm »
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I can't really imagine you can't play exactly the same with 15 str. You're overreacting, really.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2011, 06:21:12 pm »
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Uhh, I have to add this in another post so everyone see it.


Good job with nerfing agi characters further, now they can't use proper weapon without going for OP str build...

Less than 9 athletics is str build for me. I can't use any of my fav weapons with my fav build. Wtf?

I disagree. A balance is an 18/18 build, so I fail to see how, according to you, a 12/24 build is a STR build. that is still an Agil build in my eyes. If you go higher then 21 in anything I think then it becomes a STR/AGIL build...

Your current 9/27 is an extremist build, pure and simple, just like the 27/9 builds.
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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2011, 06:24:25 pm »
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Yeah, pure, simple and... useless.

Try to hit something with Steel Shield on your arm if you don't use Scimitar, or better - elite scimitar. (by that I mean running speed)

1 shield skill loss is too big for me. 10% of resistance less, when I FINALLY see Steel Shield buffed a bit...

No, I can't do that. I guess I have to find other, worse weapons to use. Which means, purely:

str buff
agi nerfed


because

str can use better weapons and even without that does greater dmg
agi is opposite, more agi you have worse weapons you can use and you deal less dmg anyway

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 06:27:03 pm »
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Str build means you cant have a good shield, that means less survivavbility so less chance to hit many times, I am a 29/9 build so I cant use a good shield, well any shields in fact due to my build, so ranged people can kill me a lot more easily than they could kill you.
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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 06:27:30 pm »
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Uh ... take a Niuweidao?
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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 06:28:27 pm »
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88 length.

Too short for me.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 06:41:29 pm »
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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 06:43:33 pm »
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88 length.

Too short for me.

lulz, actaully nieuwadao and other great weapons are still useable (i use it all the time) and requires good footwork, which is possible with an agility build, which is what you obviosuly have.  It makes sense.  Also, the amces should have higher strength as part of the problem is people would max out agility and use 1handed weapons that could 2 shot almost anyone because of the blunt/pierce damage.  Just go 3 more strength if you want them, not a big deal, especially since they buffed agility back tot he way it used to be with how fast you run and swing.  1 less atheltics and you are still faster than you were just before this patch hit.
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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 06:45:32 pm »
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especially since they buffed agility back tot he way it used to be with how fast you run and swing.  1 less atheltics and you are still faster than you were just before this patch hit.

No way.

NO way.

REALLY? Evidences?

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 07:16:06 pm »
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He's right. It's common knowledge that the Ninjas like to use the Nodachi every now and then and now it has 16str req and we are pretty much fucked, as we usually go for 15/24. It's not like I'd miss this large piece of slow crap, though.

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Re: Difficulty. You guys made some weapons too hard to use.
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2011, 07:34:37 pm »
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Yeh, BlackMilk, I know I am right. But many people don't see the problem, that agi builds suck.

They don't want to see that. Why? Simply, they love their OP str.

And again, maybe Keshian missed it:

Do you have any evidences that old, good agi is back?