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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2011, 05:05:46 pm »
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Maybe you should just reset the whiners  :lol:

At least then their complaints will be legitimate.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2011, 05:07:01 pm »
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really?

go shoot yourself for the no life arguments, i have a life, i work, i spend time with friends, yet i am gen 11, and what? am i nolifer? no. am i progressed further than most of casual players? perhaps, but that is cause i choose to spend the small amount of my free time playing

if you can not play just as long as someone else, do not expect to be on the same level as him man, seriously

retiring for new spec? yeah, worked quite well now, everytime i wanted to try out new spec, i rushed 31 and retired, voila...and i believe most of the guys using "no life" arguments have loads of alternative characters...

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2011, 05:07:51 pm »
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Maybe you should just reset the whiners  :lol:

At least then their complaints will be legitimate.

-1 gen for each whine post
instead of gen 90 we'd have gen -90

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2011, 05:12:15 pm »
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In real life people don't automatically do better than their ancestors, though they may have their ancestor's famous equipment.
In real life people are rewarded for their effort and time.
chadz> i wouldnt mind seeing some penis on my character

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2011, 05:13:16 pm »
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Well if you add funny animations to stab...
If you edit cav fight and only allow them to poke forward...
If you buff archery accuracy ...
If you increase all upkeeps...
If you ruin all the bonus that gen 30 had and didn't add anything to stop grindfest...
If you don't allow people to grab thrown weapons...
If you add only russian items...
If you don't even announce that items will be added with the patch...
Yes,people whine chadz...

+1

gen 18 gains 1450 exp per min, gen 33 gains 1450 exp per min...

fair?

ok then...
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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2011, 05:16:31 pm »
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Definatly no,
i'm not super high gen (7 atm), only retired to loom my favorite weapon.
But nonetheless it was a lot of time for me, i don't have so much time to play and i wouldn't do it again, there wouldn't be any RPG in cRPG left.
I have neither a problem with super high gens who have everything and her mother heirloomed.
Heirlooms are only such a small advantage i could easily discard them, but not my generation bonus.

I like to play different styles and weapons, yes i can twink and i have a char for everything, but since you announced that there
will be only one strategus char there is no use at all to have more than one and play him.

You'd hit you're old playerbase for the newfolks who still think gen/heirloom let them become better players...
It's just a gimmick and a timesaver especially for people who played this for a very long time and cba to start from scratch again.
Ok, i'm not a "charge server reset inc" veteran, i only started around september, but i still leveled my char up to level 44 two times pre 0.2.

I always laughed about ppl who said that, but...

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2011, 05:21:42 pm »
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Keep working on strat, don't worry about people whining about other things, they are not important. When strat comes back the people who actually put alot of time and effort into this community will be happy.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2011, 05:36:14 pm »
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I've spent the last few months looming my favorite weapon.  Please don't wipe the heirlooms, maybe let us respec them. I think the frustration of losing the tiny heirloom bonus which I worked so hard for would convince me to play other games instead...
I don't know how you can watch with_stupid, every time i see him play i want to put infants in a blender.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2011, 05:39:04 pm »
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The sad thing about this thread is that none of the people who are using the "have no life" or "Finally be on even ground" arguments are actually making a decision that is rationally grounded. The new xp system would only make it harder than it already is for people to get heirlooms. Thus the gap between the have's and have-not's will only widen more than it is now. The people who play a lot will continue to play a lot and get heirlooms while those who only play a little bit, will struggle just to get a single weapon masterworked after several months.
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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2011, 05:39:09 pm »
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Periodic rests? Yes that would work, I am all for it.

Getting the money for your equipment is almost as fast as leveling to meet the requirements. I'll be back in vanilla gear in no time. Heirlooms are a small compensation that one has no life. At least heirlooms are healthier than eating icecream as compensation.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2011, 05:41:34 pm »
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I've spent the last few months looming my favorite weapon.  Please don't wipe the heirlooms, maybe let us respec them. I think the frustration of losing the tiny heirloom bonus which I worked so hard for would convince me to play other games instead...

Next time u will know that working on your skills rather than grinding and working for heirlooms pays off in the future. No one can wipe ur skills.
PPl forget what M&B is. Unlike other games it is meant to be 80% skill and 20% EQ u wear.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2011, 05:43:15 pm »
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wipe wipe wipe  :twisted:

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2011, 05:45:36 pm »
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-1 gen for each whine post
instead of gen 90 we'd have gen -90

This would be great, I support this.

I myself am not going to do a whine post until a solid two weeks have past, so I can actually see how everything interacts and how the community adapts.

Honestly things seem ok at this  point. Yeah, my archer can not punk cav anymore by whipping  a pike out at the last second, but honestly, this makes me value the friendly pikemen more. I have a lot of fond memories of being paired with one or two guys and protecting each other in battle, and this patch just rewards it.

The only thing I hate has nothing to do with game balance, and that is the idiotic ten second rule and leech poles, but I can see, to be faie, how that was implemented To experiment with. A nice try...

So everyone just shush, and see how the new battles go. Yeah, you may have been nerfed in a place, but so was everyone else. Gameplay takes precedence over your favorite gizmo. I love that I built a character off of a concept, and all of my alts too. I never have to worry about me heirlooming an op thing only to find it is no longer op after a patch, for I mainly just play for fun and not to exploit Gizmo X hackmaster nine thousand and make a build out of it.

You all wanted a rebalance, so here it is. chadz finally released a patch so be happy. The best thing we can do right now is play for a while and explore the new battle dynamics, see how everything interacts and explore new synergies, then offer constructive feed back with possible solutions on any bugs, glitches, or broken gameplay features to chadz and the devs.

TLDR version: Shut up and play.

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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2011, 05:45:53 pm »
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Wipe wipe wipe wipe
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Re: Possible solution to future whine
« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2011, 05:51:50 pm »
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TLDR version: Shut up and play.

No, get on here and whine!! Whine till he chadz' face goes ragey and wipes everything!


I will gladly play peasant and never heirloom again.