How to reduce long spear madness?

[Kaoklai]

Long Spear is a support weapon, something that you aren't supposed to use 1-on-1.

Says you.  I thought cRPG was about customization and individuality. 

And what exactly is a "support" weapon anyways.  It's not like pikes aren't meant to kill people also.  This isn't Team Fortress 2 where there are [effective] non-lethal means of support.  If you want to "support" or help your team, you do so by inflicting damage upon, and hopefully killing, people.  In a group of 2h, 1h/shield, and pikes, who is supporting whom?  They are all contributing to victory through direct damage.  Who lands the killing blow is mostly irrelevant.  If "support" here means "should be horrible 1v1," congratulations, they already are given that your opponent isn't retarded. 

This is just another feeble attempt by the LARP/realism lobby to restrict player choice.  Oh, you picked weapon X, then you must have playstyle Y and you shouldn't be able to do Z at all. 

No.

[Rumblood]

And what exactly is a "support" weapon anyways.

Dude that's standard "I don't have an actual good reason for this nerf call" excuse. "X is a support class anyhow!"

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[Rumblood]

He is against a nerf, or I misunderstood something ;)

Follow the thread now! He's sarcastically asking that question of Everkistus who made the "support weapon" statement 

[BarBeQ]

Does anyone complaining here even played Long Spear for atleast a few weeks ? You have to be extremly carefull in a 1v1.
Most Long Spear (ab)users are very good players who would even be able to get a decent K:D with a stick.

[Torwald]

Hi i am a bit new, i agree with the topic. It should not be possible to spin as now with pikes.
Instead they should be fast, deal a fair amount of damage and have a over hand trust.
So pikemen can trust 3-4 times before the opponent is face to face. When the opponent is face to face a he should draw secondary weapon. Problem is that it's hard to keep a formation and it is in the, formation it do it's best.   

[Ubereem]

It's official, EU complaining is ruining the game for NA.

[Tzar]

It's official, EU complaining is ruining the game for NA.

How come  : The Devs dont listen to community input anyways.

Consider this part of the forum as a place people go off to rant while alt tapping ingame.

[Joseph Porta]

please do so. even without the retarded face stab they are slicky eels getting a hit in and immediatly getting behind their team mates for cover.
1v1 would still be possible but with more jump stabs involved

[Piok]

Increase speed nerf damage 

[Haze_The_Hobo]

Pike and Longspear are both op weapons at short distance, they are way too lethal in close combat considering how they are supposed to be used.

This is a case where we need realism.

[no_rules_just_play]

indeed, but you cant just nerf close combat and leave the pike like it is now, we just have to abuse this feature (like alot of weapons) to be able to survive. do you know any person that can block a thousand pikes with a single block? do you know somebody that can walk through a spear and stab the guy that holds it? do you know any example of somebody getting wounded because a piker stabbed while the wooden part of it was touching his body? no and all these things are important pike features

[Piok]

Pikes should be fast in stabbing but not too strong. 15 pierce for unloomed should be enough and removing unbalanced.

[no_rules_just_play]

Pikes should be fast in stabbing but not too strong. 15 pierce for unloomed should be enough and removing unbalanced.

15 pierce????
man pikes were used to penetrate plate armor, with 15 pierce you cant even stun a archer

[[ptx]]

Pikes should be fast in stabbing but not too strong. 15 pierce for unloomed should be enough and removing unbalanced.

Enough for.. what? Stabbing naked people?

[Haze_The_Hobo]

Enough for.. what? Stabbing naked people?

Enough for.. what? Tickling naked women?