Ranged gime cRPG back plz :/

[Hugo_Stiglitz]

adding wind to nerf ranged is a really fucking retarded approach.
Ranged is fine as it is. The vast majority of archers really are not devastating.
A number of archers have started using the Bow, and they're sacrificing a massive chunk of damage for that increased accuracy. That should indicate archery is already totally fine where it is when people are trying to balance out their builds to their most effective play-style-
You can sacrifice damage for accuracy, accuracy for damage, or take a very balanced, medium damage and accuracy build.
If anything, increase accuracy significantly and then implement wind.

Wind sounds fine IF it is ineffective indoors/in courtyards, and within short distances (20 yards or so)

The problem with archery now is the weight of the arrows.
My archer has a total armor weight of 2.
My bow weighs 2.3.
My 3 stacks of bodkins add up to 21.
With my 8 ath I cant even outrun someone with 4-6 ath that is heavily armored.

The damage is fine. An archer with enough skill can land 3-5 shots into each target. With loomed arrows and a bow, they can make work of anybody.
But I will not stand to waste my time as an archer that is incapable of keeping distance from plated 2hers, with each quiver weighing as much as the head of a great maul.

[Zanze]

i like this mod i played it nonstop for over a year now but i start to play it less and lately quiting after one round cause of 20 archers on one hill shooting youre "FUN" away

don't bother saying take a shield cause its boring as hell and even then you get shot by 20 archers kiting around you

gime cRPG back you selfish cunts

Taking a shield and holding it in front of you to stop arrows is boring? So not having one and getting hit by arrows is fun by that logic.

You can just do what a few smart NA players do and bring the shield, use it to close the distance, then take out their melee weapon. Also, if there are 20 archers surrounding you, that is your own fault for choosing a terrible place to fight and position yourself.

Also, didn't read the thread.

[Prpavi]

the amount of ranged spam at this moment on EU 1 is unbearable.

Theres less than 50ppl but the amout of archers/xbows is sick.


This is the fact that bothers me the most, not even the 100 pierce dmg from arba or insane dmg death by loom archers, its the sheer amount of it, always been.

And yes, i do have a shield, doesnt help if they are all around you.

[Moncho]

oh, it is this thread again.
Please refer to the left

[Templar_Ratigan]

the amount of ranged spam at this moment on EU 1 is unbearable.

Theres less than 50ppl but the amout of archers/xbows is sick.


This is the fact that bothers me the most, not even the 100 pierce dmg from arba or insane dmg death by loom archers, its the sheer amount of it, always been.

And yes, i do have a shield, doesnt help if they are all around you.

Actually ive just come from Eu 1 and the majority of the players I saw and yes while you were there, were melee 2 handers. Followed by a few polearms and a lot of cav.

Also as I recall you were trying out a hoplite and complaining how shit it was, so you put your shield on your back and used the war spear on its own.

The amusing thing about this game is that one or two archers shooting at you can feel like 6-7 of them.

[Zaar]

Actually ive just come from Eu 1 and the majority of the players I saw and yes while you were there, were melee 2 handers. Followed by a few polearms and a lot of cav.

Also as I recall you were trying out a hoplite and complaining how shit it was, so you put your shield on your back and used the war spear on its own.

The amusing thing about this game is that one or two archers shooting at you can feel like 6-7 of them.

I havent played today...but for example yesterday late evening it was something like 45 vs 45. I counted archers on my team (on foot and on horse, basically everyone that shot or threw something). There were 15. 1/3 of a team.

If we presume the other team has a similar amount...that's 30/90 players.

Imagine 15 things flying every few seconds your way 

That said, I still think lack of teamwork is the key and I'm sure those who play(ed) clan/strat/organised battles will agree.

[Prpavi]

Actually ive just come from Eu 1 and the majority of the players I saw and yes while you were there, were melee 2 handers. Followed by a few polearms and a lot of cav.

Also as I recall you were trying out a hoplite and complaining how shit it was, so you put your shield on your back and used the war spear on its own.

The amusing thing about this game is that one or two archers shooting at you can feel like 6-7 of them.

YES I HATE HOPLITE!!! It's Dados fault!

And i RQ and reconnected bit later, the ranged fest was going on until the Ruskies went to school, i got shot left right and center.

Still a rangedfest, you may look at it differently but to me 6/7 arcehrs on one side coupled by several srossbownem shooting from all sides on 50- server is a rangedfest. you just cant hide.

I put my shiled down when faced with several enemies or a facehugging shielder ( i mostly lose)

[Doppel]

A battlefield2-like commander mode would be nice. There should also be a 30-60sec warm up time before a battle starts to form formations and so on.

[Shpritza]

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GO PLAY SIEGE!! 
NO RANGED AND CAV FEST!!

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AND STOP THE WHINE!!

 

[Prpavi]

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GO PLAY SIEGE!! 
NO RANGED AND CAV FEST!!

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AND STOP THE WHINE!!

 

Siege is only fun for like half an hour and full of nabs...

[Shpritza]

Siege is only fun for like half an hour and full of nabs...

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AND STOP THE WHINE!!

[highglandeur]

Learn to kite nubs! All this lobbying is disgusting! You people deserve to be called wimpy ass fa gg ots  by a french!
Don't you understand this is counter productive? You make archers victims every patch and their numbers grow.

[Fuma Kotaro]

@prpavi
i was on battle insta first one on scoreboard and 18 1 after 3 rounds (fought last round 1 vs to many and killed 6(?))
dont tell me siege is the noob mode

[Falka]

@prpavi
i was on battle insta first one on scoreboard and 18 1 after 3 rounds (fought last round 1 vs to many and killed 6(?))
dont tell me siege is the noob mode

Quack you! You are noob, that's why u play siege! Knitlery is noob too! You would't kill lvl 1 peasant in rags who joined cRPG yesterday you filthy noob! Only battle is full of pr0s! 1111! 

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[Templar_Steevee]

Almost every one of you are whining about archers. Yea, we are annoying as hell but also decrease a bit amount of cav.
Haven't you noticed that some archers are killing plenty of horses or cav? Or even one of worst curse of c-rpg IMO- Horse Crossbow.

Archers can't kite any more and it's good, shielders can preety easy catch an archer. Belive me, it's not funny when you have to figth against shielder or 2h hero with a 0 slot weapon like habd axe, pickaxe or hammer...

Most of roofs are unreachable, and ones does, they are easily accesible for every one, even cav what is bullshit for me.

Archers became really skilled because of you, c-rpg whiners. You force a nerf for archers, we get accostumed to it and find out other ways to be deadly or annoying.

Haters gonna hate, and archers gonna shoot them anyway