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Remove thrust stun for poles.
« on: December 28, 2012, 09:14:13 pm »
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Polearms got nerfed to the ground,servers are full of 2h heroes and ranged and the only ones who use polearms are the ones who are cavalry and pikes/lspears.

Swords are faster and stronger than polearms,you removed polestun,remove thrust stun aswell..


Jesus fucking christ,no more 2h/ranged servers,the mod is dull.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 09:19:03 pm »
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i dont have a problem with it, it just gives some more danger to stabbing people. (i am piker)

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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 09:19:54 pm »
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i dont have a problem with it, it just gives some more danger to stabbing people. (i am piker)

Yeah, makes you an easy kill for the already fast 2h/1h class..
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 09:20:52 pm »
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idk, i can fight as support and as ninja if i want.

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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 09:35:12 pm »
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I noticed that in some cases, a player who is stunned due to a blocked thrust can actually avoid being hit by jumping away, but I haven't tried this myself.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 09:37:28 pm »
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It's fairly long for poles, a number of which are already suffering heavily from the turn-radius nerf (2-d polearms) as well as the loss of polestagger (spears, especially). 2-handers can have it too but it seems like the window for them to be stunned on a thrust is during a shorter phase of the animation, idk.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 09:38:23 pm »
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It's fairly long. 2-handers can have it too but it seems like the window for them to be stunned on a thrust is during a shorter phase of the animation, idk.

Speed > Damage> Length
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 09:43:43 pm »
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2handers also have the stab stun.

Just jump away after you fail to stab. Works even for me with 1 athletics.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 09:44:07 pm »
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Speed > Damage> Length

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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 09:45:02 pm »
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Polearms got nerfed to the ground,servers are full of 2h heroes and ranged and the only ones who use polearms are the ones who are cavalry and pikes/lspears.

Swords are faster and stronger than polearms,you removed polestun,remove thrust stun aswell..


Jesus fucking christ,no more 2h/ranged servers,the mod is dull.
2h has thrust stun aswell.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 09:45:30 pm »
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2handers also have the stab stun.

Just jump away after you fail to stab. Works even for me with 1 athletics.

why the hell do I have to play the zogler to avoid an idiotic stun??

Just remove,can`t you see that other classes slowly die..

Edit for GTX : yes they do but polearm stun lasts longer,I tested it a while ago..
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 10:17:07 pm »
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why the hell do I have to play the zogler to avoid an idiotic stun??

Just remove,can`t you see that other classes slowly die..

Edit for GTX : yes they do but polearm stun lasts longer,I tested it a while ago..

I am not so sure, it seemed like it was the same. Idk... maybe its because i get it more frequently with 2h.
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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 10:25:02 pm »
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I noticed that in some cases, a player who is stunned due to a blocked thrust can actually avoid being hit by jumping away, but I haven't tried this myself.
believe me, this is only for the people that dont know how to play piker ninja properly. indeed, you have to avoid the hits when stunned but jumping backwards will only give you a wall of downblocks. if you are good enough at  blocking and if you have a good feeling for teamfights (even being able to predict incoming attacks based on your moves), you can easily ninja your way through a group of enemies and kill them all.
there is no way to fight 1 vs 3 with a long spear when jumping away. i can, with my techniques. red pike is even better as he is able to do it with a pike, wich i suck at.

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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 10:37:23 pm »
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So Poles were nerfed to hell and you want to nerf them more? Or nerf the stab on 2Hs?

I don't get it.

And polearms aren't just Cav and Pikes, its also hoplites who need Polestun to remain effective.

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Re: Remove thrust stun for poles.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 10:41:32 pm »
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So Poles were nerfed to hell and you want to nerf them more? Or nerf the stab on 2Hs?

I don't get it.

And polearms aren't just Cav and Pikes, its also hoplites who need Polestun to remain effective.
polestun: if someone gets stabbed by a polearm, he gets stunned

thrust stun: if someone stabs (espescially polearms) and gets blocked, the weapon bounces back and isnt able to block/attack for a brief amount of time. this isnt removed yet.