Author Topic: Fips' Maps (Read 8045 times)

Fips · « **on:** December 19, 2012, 07:34:46 pm »

http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3882

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Zlisch_The_Butcher · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2012, 08:14:25 pm »

It appears from the screens that there is a way to big distance from attacker spawns to the flag, doubt it'll be winnable for the attackers.

Fips · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2012, 08:35:07 pm »

Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 19, 2012, 08:14:25 pm

It appears from the screens that there is a way to big distance from attacker spawns to the flag, doubt it'll be winnable for the attackers.

~40secs to get there. 10-15 if you use horse. Once the gates are opened ofc. Thought about removing the 2nd gates before uploading it, but i think without the 2nd gates it will be very hard to defend...

Zlisch_The_Butcher · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2012, 09:52:17 pm »

Quote from: Fips on December 19, 2012, 08:35:07 pm

~40secs to get there. 10-15 if you use horse. Once the gates are opened ofc. Thought about removing the 2nd gates before uploading it, but i think without the 2nd gates it will be very hard to defend...

40 sec is way to long I'm afraid, especially considering that defense usually has some defensive advantage in siege.

Fips · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2012, 10:07:45 pm »

Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 19, 2012, 09:52:17 pm

40 sec is way to long I'm afraid, especially considering that defense usually has some defensive advantage in siege.

Well, jacko told me that 50-60 seconds are standard oO

Thranduil · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:06:22 am »

Honestly, 40 seconds to flag isn't that bad. I've played worse. Also remember that we have that new system set up where the attackers make progress and start spawning closer to the flag. Really though, we won't know until it's played.

Fips · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2012, 07:02:57 pm »

Next project: Helms Deep (in winter). Got the green light from jacko to build it =D
Probably everyone knows how it looks, anybody got some tips balance-wise before i start building it? Oh, and is it possible to make that little river without using the terrain generator?

Jacko · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2012, 09:32:18 pm »

When creating terrain it's preferable to start with a flat ish map and then raise and lower in layers. If you want to make your own river, set the terrain brush to minus, cut out the general shape, smooth were needed and paint in the details.

It's never a good idea to use any of the preset stuff from the editor, it usually leaves artifacts when changing it.

Thranduil · « **Reply #8 on:** December 26, 2012, 02:33:59 am »

Quote from: Fips on December 25, 2012, 07:02:57 pm

Next project: Helms Deep (in winter). Got the green light from jacko to build it =D
Probably everyone knows how it looks, anybody got some tips balance-wise before i start building it? Oh, and is it possible to make that little river without using the terrain generator?

Helm's Deep eh?

My friend, CtrlAltDe1337, made a Helm's Deep some years ago. You can find it here: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2519

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Might be useful to see another's attempt at doing Helm's Deep.

Good luck! I look forward to seeing it someday.

Camaris · « **Reply #9 on:** December 26, 2012, 10:10:03 am »

Quote from: Thranduil on December 26, 2012, 02:33:59 am

Helm's Deep eh?

My friend, CtrlAltDe1337, made a Helm's Deep some years ago. You can find it here: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2519
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Might be useful to see another's attempt at doing Helm's Deep.

Good luck! I look forward to seeing it someday.

Its good to see this map as an example how helms deep isnt working with siege in crpg.
It looks nice but the path to the flag is so f***** long. With some work on spawns it could have been a real solid map.
Take it as an example how it could look but how it shouldnt be balanced.

Helms Deep is probably one of those maps that would work best with new siege mode. (if it ever comes)

Fips · « **Reply #10 on:** December 26, 2012, 11:28:56 am »

@jacko: Yeah, i noticed that. Tried to work with many hills on terrain, didn't work and now i'm building it on flat area, last thing i will add are the mountains and the river (Which i still didn't figure out how to make it without that water-prop?! I only get water when the area really is down below 0)

@Thranduil: Yes, i saw this one already some time ago, doesn't look bad, but i'd rather make it as close to the movie as possible. Will steal some ideas, though. =D

@Neresto: My version will probably be even bigger, but once it's done i'm trying to balance it out with the spawnpoints. How many and which spawnpoints are used for the initial spawn? First spawn shouldn't be too close to the castle, but after the first one on a map like this it's probably a good idea to let attackers spawn very close to the walls/gatehouse or even in the yard behind the walls. But then again, might be even hard to defend if attackers spawn too close.
Anyway, it's probably better to discuss this after i know how long it would take attackers to get to flag. I will get back to you with some screens in a couple of days.

Jacko · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2012, 11:37:35 am »

You only get water when the terrain is below 0, that's the only way. My advice is to place the water as early as possible, and build the terrain around it. There is a water prop, but it's not really functional.

Fips · « **Reply #12 on:** December 26, 2012, 11:44:20 am »

Quote from: Jacko on December 26, 2012, 11:37:35 am

You only get water when the terrain is below 0, that's the only way. My advice is to place the water as early as possible, and build the terrain around it. There is a water prop, but it's not really functional.

Okay, that's not going to work then. I will try the prop anyway, if it doesn't work, there won't be a river then. It's winter anyway, maybe it's frozen, lol.

Zlisch_The_Butcher · « **Reply #13 on:** December 26, 2012, 03:26:42 pm »

Quote from: Jacko on December 26, 2012, 11:37:35 am

You only get water when the terrain is below 0, that's the only way. My advice is to place the water as early as possible, and build the terrain around it. There is a water prop, but it's not really functional.

You could also place a million water props, however that's really messy unless you're placing them all on terrain of the exact same height level.

Quote from: Fips on December 26, 2012, 11:44:20 am

Okay, that's not going to work then. I will try the prop anyway, if it doesn't work, there won't be a river then. It's winter anyway, maybe it's frozen, lol.

Why wouldn't it work? All it'd require would be making the base ground of the map like level 1 or 2 then lowering it and raising it were needed?

Fips · « **Reply #14 on:** December 26, 2012, 04:56:16 pm »

Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 26, 2012, 03:26:42 pm

You could also place a million water props, however that's really messy unless you're placing them all on terrain of the exact same height level.Why wouldn't it work? All it'd require would be making the base ground of the map like level 1 or 2 then lowering it and raising it were needed?

This river is coming from a huge mountain. Never actually saw that kind of river in M&B. Either i place it like it would actually look like, flowing down the mountain, or i don't place it at all. But i think i'll be just fine with the 2nd option, tried that water prop...it looked, well, interesting.

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