Ridicules

[Jacu]

I want ask Why the fu** pawlo was banned in the middle of battle
where in "rules" is something like "you will banned if you select your spawn point in opponent spawn point" pls show me this
i think if you let him select his spown in your spawn point is yours fault, he needed few seconds to do this. You are noobs if you let him do this
Mustiki which genius make you admin ??!!  why you use your power to fuck us maybe because " I can do this because i am admin i always have Rightness" BULSHIT             
next time if you have any "good idea" pls put this idea to your ass.... (sorry for hate)
I demand to delete this guy form admins list, i think nobody (from admins) can use his power to help his fraction     
of course maybe I am wrong and admins can do what they want

Btw as I remember  sky ladder is forbidden, so pls explain me this
http://i50.tinypic.com/2e5mgcy.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/15d5tuo.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/4tabgo.jpg
and of course dont forget about catapult in the wall

SO (on the end) pawlo get ban for nothing (sorry for admin humor) and mercs who make sky ladder is innocent. OK

[Kanclerz]

Yep!!!
Why all the time in sieges Coalition, Wolves, Mercs and other use "flying ladders"?
You can't normal throw ladders?
I'm puking this when only way to destroy it is jump down and cut.
Maybe add the tanks, once you win all battles.
Don't use bugs . It's terrible. Always the same - flying ladders,
Kingrimm hunting weapon rack
and stuping enginers shooting from catapult just before the wall (it's very funny, crazy and your enginners are stupid kids hahahaha).


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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Don't use bugs . It's terrible.

This, to everyone.

[Haboe]

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[Haboe]

Also, in case you didnt notice, most of those ladders were trown from a siegetower.
If the wolves moved that tower (or drz side did) the ladders would stay and result in a skyladder (which we can't reach anymore).
On top of that slekz castle is rather buggy, and needs to be changed. A lot of ladders stop mid air on invisable obstacles and thus don't reach the walls.

[Jacu]

so haboe??? where you have any sky ladder ?? every ladder is on the ground.... hm maybe i am blind

[Haboe]

A) i have no skyladders, its a wolves battle.
B) explained in the post why wolves had those ladders, and are unavoidable due to moving siegetowers by both sides.

[Noctivagant]

so haboe??? where you have any sky ladder ?? every ladder is on the ground.... hm maybe i am blind

According to rules both ends has to be on solid ground, thats one thing the second part is if you throw a ladder from siege tower and move the siege tower later on the ladder will stay in the air. Most of the ladders shown in your pictures happened like that.

Most obvious one is here

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I think the problem wasn't in that broken section of the wall (since everything was moving there) but more like in the keep area.

[Jacu]

"solid ground" what this mean ??
walls and roof is not solid ? so try hit the wall form head, maybe after this you will get some brain in our head

btw this half of "sky ladder" is neverending story because everybody know you will not get ban because you are mercs coalition and wolves so pls end this topic

But if Mercs grace me to read my post pls explain me this first half of topic because this "admin" is mercs memeber

[polkafranzi]

Btw as I remember  sky ladder is forbidden, so pls explain me this

5 minutes into the battle and you were already at it...sigh, think before you post son.

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Btw as I remember  sky ladder is forbidden, so pls explain me this

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the obvious one, and top right by timer..gg pewpew

[Noctivagant]

"solid ground" what this mean ??
walls and roof is not solid ? so try hit the wall form head, maybe after this you will get some brain in our head

btw this half of "sky ladder" is neverending story because everybody know you will not get ban because you are mercs coalition and wolves so pls end this topic

But if Mercs grace me to read my post pls explain me this first half of topic because this "admin" is mercs memeber

First of all stop raging please. I'm not asking any bans here or anything. Simply when you throw a ladder the both ends has to touch some ground. That doesn't mean it has to be on floor, can be ground to wall, wall to wall, tower to wall, you name it. But as far as I know (you still need to ask it to admins) the position of the ladders in the keep area and some on the walls were against the rules.

I think RXN kinda explained it well in the past

We took this castle a couple of days ago and had no problems with ladders, keeps, archers, racks, catas etc. For me the problem is about the lack of tactics and management, but not the game mechanics. 

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A simple solution for overhanging ladders
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anything defying that physics law is not allowed.

you can find a similar discussion on this topic

http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/ladder-question/10/

[Butan]

anything defying that physics law is not allowed.

Is it official ? 


This is the biggest strategus battle problem... lots of things arent publicly forbidden (or tolerated).


Like, someone posted not so long ago:

According to Shik as long as one end is on something that's not another ladder/constructable it's fine.

One end or both end ?




And the "siege equipment around flag" problem is the same shit : it is not regulated enough and fucks up sieges and battles 

[CrazyCracka420]

I heard the term "sky ladders" only refers to ladders thrown off of other ladders.

I was told that ladders that are what most people consider "sky ladders" (aka they touch on the bottom but nowhere else) are perfectly legit (which I think is ridiculous).

If the ladders don't follow the physics posted in the picture above, they should automatically disappear.

[Noctivagant]

This is the biggest strategus battle problem... lots of things arent publicly forbidden (or tolerated).

I think the problem is everything is a bit in grey area, things are not really clear. Sky ladders were an issue for a while now, and to be honest people (including me) are not really clear on the subject.
We need an official guideline for that. But I assume anything giving an unfair advantage is forbidden.

We also need a clear statement from admins about what is allowed on the ladders, seen many people putting siege shields on the ladders before (not in this battle)

[Jacu]

ok nocti so we have 3 ladder (on the top) because rest  ladders is ok, it was useless, no body shot form them, it wasn`t ours "last castle" and it doesn`t do anything to help us.
and you have many ladders (sky ladders) which you used to killed us
but ok end of this half of topic (as i said) you used from last 10 min of battle and we had 3 ....  but ok we had sky ladders