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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2265 on: May 17, 2016, 03:28:38 pm »
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That must be the weirdest list I've ever seen, it's like the opposite day. Such politically competent people that they're in exile-under-the-pain-of-death and get stabbed to death by their brothers... and also serve the "incompetent."
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« Reply #2266 on: May 17, 2016, 03:38:20 pm »
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I honestly thought the dragons would come save her. Maybe they have to skimp on CGI budget and have other plans for them.
As did I. When Drogon came to save her from them in the books I was getting the impression she was starting to learn how to control him a bit.

No, that was clear to me that they wouldn't pull that trick again. The whole story arc was about her inspiring more people to join her.
I thought she would somehow convince the Dothraki that she's boss by diplomatic means. Instead she kills the bosses again, and that somehow worked out... oh well
so the books can pull that trick more than once but not the show?!
Those horse riding rapists needed no diplomacy, they needed to bow or get burnt by Drogon, not some carriesque burning scene either.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2267 on: May 17, 2016, 03:46:03 pm »
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Tbf, GoT is going so comically, terribly overboard with the GRRRLPOWER pandering to the female audience now, in the latest episode just about every scene involved a woman telling a sniveling, indecisive cowardly male or a toxically masculine idiot how badass a female she is and how her enemies's asses need to be kicked.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2268 on: May 17, 2016, 03:57:58 pm »
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also insert Daenerys + Brienne with plot armor of doom.
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« Reply #2269 on: May 17, 2016, 04:32:42 pm »
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Granted, not much girl power to be had in getting stabbed in the throat by a psychopath. There was still a common thread throughout the episode of the women being the resilient, strong ones bouncing back from adversity and the men being easily discouraged whiners broken by it. Can you imagine the backlash if the roles were reversed?
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« Reply #2270 on: May 17, 2016, 04:39:42 pm »
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I don't see how it's relevant in any way that Bolton killed a minor character who happened to be female.
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« Reply #2271 on: May 17, 2016, 05:01:36 pm »
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Everytime a woman so much as stubs her toe there has been a slew of articles decrying the terrible misogyny and obvious patriarchal bent of the show. Sansa getting rapped by Bolton was an attack on all women, somehow, but Theon getting his junk cut off and relentlessly tortured didn't seem to provoke much sympathy (prob cause he was an arrogant murderous douchebag who kind of deserved it as opposed to Sansa being an overall innocent victim, but still). If Asha was the one that had happened to, and she escaped then returned to the Iron Islands only to be chastized as a worthless, broken weakling by her brother, do you think the arguement that this is merely because the Iron Islanders despise weakness would have played well?
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2272 on: May 17, 2016, 05:04:41 pm »
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Not to mention the red wedding where Rob's wife gets stabbed in the womb. That caused a shit storm.

So many people on the internet (lots of women) claiming they'd stop watching the show because it was an affront to women and GoT had gone too far. Yet no mention of Rob getting a dire wolf for a head.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2273 on: May 17, 2016, 05:14:39 pm »
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Maybe everyone should just stop interpret everything so much and take stuff more literal.
It's a TV show overall and while interpretation of the books might make sense to some degree, as soon as the TV show left those boundaries, there doesn't seem to be much point to it anymore, interpret stuff from a couple of screenwriters...
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« Reply #2274 on: May 17, 2016, 05:42:35 pm »
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2275 on: May 17, 2016, 05:48:35 pm »
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The relevance is that she's doing exactly what you're calling bullshit on, and getting fucked over in-universe for it. Every major character has some degree of hero-armour, even in this. They die when it suits the plot.
Except that she's not? No idea what you're talking about, and you've clearly managed to completely misunderstand the complaint (not surprised). Female characters getting murdered is neither here nor there.
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« Reply #2276 on: May 17, 2016, 06:29:23 pm »
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Xantiphus & Emile arguments are sometimes more intense than GoT episodes, especially the King's Landing shit.

Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2277 on: May 17, 2016, 07:02:04 pm »
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Not to mention the red wedding where Rob's wife gets stabbed in the womb. That caused a shit storm.

So many people on the internet (lots of women) claiming they'd stop watching the show because it was an affront to women and GoT had gone too far. Yet no mention of Rob getting a dire wolf for a head.

On a sidenote. Robb's show wife is one of the few book changes I agree with. The Red Wedding was more intense because of her death there instead of the whole Robb Wife still alive with a child and wasn't there with Robb deal the book went with. Derpy Jeyne.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2278 on: May 17, 2016, 07:04:37 pm »
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I thought the issue was with all the dominant women showing the men who's boss.

Thinking this was the issue I presented an example of a woman attempting to act like this in the most recent episode and getting stabbed in the neck like it was nothing.

Clearly I misunderstood, it wasn't at all an issue with 'girlpower'.
The argument was never that not a single woman in the show has ever died.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2279 on: May 18, 2016, 07:22:12 pm »
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