Serious 2h weapon discussion (featuring blunt; Goedendag)

[Pentecost]

Of all the 2handers. There are really no weapon that is fast that trades length for damage..
If you want hard hitting .. you always have to chose the toptier ones. That always has good length and slow speed.

Masterwork Great Axe says hi.

[Shaksie]

I get the feeling the post has not been read completely.

You fail to understand that the goedendag is a budget weapon. It's not supposed to compete with high tier 2handers.
I mean yes the damage is pretty low even though it's blunt. But there's also this thing called knockdown which gives you another free hit every now and then and also the possibility for an infinite knockdown-kick-knockdown-hit-... combo.

I own both a +3 claymore and a goedendag btw

I know this... there is in fact a reason I said that there should be more variety; eg higher tier non cut balanced weapons with decent lengths and speeds. Read the entire thread or don't post please. I also said that I did not want to drastically change the stats of the Goedendag, I requested a filling of the gap that it viable non-cut type two handed weapons.
Also, I found the Goedendag in no way overpowered. Compared to the heavy bastard sword, it is significantly weaker and slower for a moderate price increase and a decrease in length.

[zagibu]

If the poleaxes are shortened, they have to become unbalanced. It would not make sense to have the axes unbalanced, and the shortened poleaxes not.

Also, knockdown implies a heavy weapon, so be happy that goedendag and warclub have this good knockdown without being unbalanced. A balanced knockdown top tier weapon would be OP. The goedendag is actually kind of ridiculous already, because the silly spike makes you think you are at a safe distance, but then BAM, it knocks you down. Its reach is VERY hard to judge.

[no_rules_just_play]

goedendag is flemish, it should be OP. fuck game balance, long live realism!

[zagibu]

You mean OP like flemish giant rabbits: http://puppybunnyguineapretty.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/flemish-giant-rabbits/ ?

[owens]

give +1 swing damage for goedendag

[Shaksie]

I'm not saying add these exact weapons; I'm saying there is a gap in the choices. Read the entire thread with your eye holes or don't post with your fingers.

[Malaclypse]

Yeah, compared to the variety of polearm and even 1hand weapons, two-hand is definitely lacking. 3 non-ct blunt options, 1 pierce, and a ton of long high cut damage swords. There's a lot more that could be done for variety.

With the variables of speed, weight, length, and damage/damage type, there are an infinite number of things which could be done to make each weapon more unique. Like, why is there not a super long, super fast, medium weight extremely low damage two-hand? Things like that.

[no_rules_just_play]

[Herr_Thomas]

Where's the "2H OP 2STRONK NARF" option?

Also, why did you involve the poleaxe in a 2h balance discussion?

[owens]

I did fine with the goedendag 3rd gen.

You need PS about 8 and you will get results. It is very budget but a good dueling weapon and reasonable against any foe.

In regards to new weapons I might have some in the pipeline.

Fast long blunt is practice longsword



Goedendag needs a polearm mode desperately.

[Shaksie]

Fast long blunt is practice longsword
Goedendag needs a polearm mode desperately.

I wasn't aware Practice Longsword was a high tier item.

[owens]

was a joke.


chill

[Shaksie]

Look at the topic name plx.

[Shaksie]

Also, why did you involve the poleaxe in a 2h balance discussion?

To show that a high tier blunt weapon is not overpowered; despite the fact that Poleaxes blunt damage is their secondary mode, it is still very effective.