so kiting has been adressed....
You write a nice big post of how archers have a difficult life...
While you did that, I know a lot of archers (thomas cadarn, johanE, Bagge, zerobot) who still rain down death even though they cant run like fairies, who pull off an insane amount of headshots, kills and are still to be massively feared and have an important influence on the battle.
Those are the archers that i respect and fear because they are still there hitting like trucks and bringing death on others and you would never believe they'v been nerfed.
You? You just cry on the forums, man up, get out there and show you are to be feared, because all those archers are not waiting for you
ps : now don't get me wrong, myabe arrow speed drope tc was too much, i never had a big problem with archery, jsut the kiting was plain stupid
You did not read the OP. In the OP I stated that I think adressing kiting is good thing but the "solution" devs came up actually did fail to balance the game in an appropriate way. Before I repeat the hole post please read it.
Also the OP was written with opinions of the very archers you list in mind. Some of the first class archers concider me to be a first class archers in this mod as well and I too can rain down headshots and havoc. The problem with archery now is that a single newbie with a build that is better then yours will autokill-own you, no matter what individual player skill there is, also explained in depth in the OP.
Last but not least when it comes to crying, meleeplayers are and always were the topscoring kind of person. I understand that ones mind will dull over time when you are exposed to this community for long enough and at somepoint every argument looks like crying but look again. There is no whining, all I do is listing facts, objective observations and drawing a conclusion out of it.
Sry mate, but it's not true. melee wpf neither " vastly increase swingspeed" nor "has a large impact on damage".
Afaik DaveUKR has 5 PS and no more than 90 wpf in 2h and he is "quite" effective at melee. Also, I don't get why "you cant afford any melee WPF." At lvl 30 with 7 WM instead of 165 wpf in archery you can have 155 in archery and 77 in 2h or 1h which is more than enough.
Take byrnie and mail mittens - 39 body armor, 9,1 effective weight. I'm pure melee and have 46 body armor. Ninjas have even less, 42 body armor.
I have to admit that the term "vastly" and "large" can be interpreted differently. The difference between 1 WPF and 150ish WPF is incredibly noticable though when I switch from my archer to my 2h alt. Also, last I checked 100 WPF is worth 15 % melee damage which is about 2 PS. I cant say whether the higher swing speed also adds additional speed bonus.
No matter how you put it, no WPF at all vs. the number of WPF that a dedicated build offers is quite unbalanced when you hear people go crazy because their favorite weapon got
-1 speed rating !!! or similar. At this point I would be delighted if a dev could explain how lets say 150 WPF translates into weapon speed points.
The WPF thing would be fine if the example was for melee but ranged WPF just start to get useful at a certain point. If you keep in mind that PD (still) decreases WPF the difference between 155 and 165 WPF - the PD penalty is equal to 71 to 81 effective WPF at just 6 PD ( more PD even more penalty ) which is about 15 % more effective WPF. Those 15 % can be the difference between a hit and a miss at 30 meters for example. Not to mention the longbow, which need a certain amount of WPF in order to be able to release an arrow before the reticule starts to expand due to the low speed rating of the bow. Archery is just very WPF heavy.
In other words: A single PS gives just 8% more damage. Do 2h players invest a spare skill point into shield skill in order to adapt ? Of course not, they go for the additional PS and hope they will need one hit less for the kill every now and then.
At the armor part, yes, probably not all archers wear as much armor as they could. Chapter I - IV though explains that there is simply no point in going melee with an archery build and armor wont change this by a bit. In fact it will just give you harder time getting away from the threat.
Generic Tzar bullshitting
The prime example of people who simply do not meet the intellectual requirements for participating in a discussion. I still wonder why this individual is not muted, let alone who unmuted him.
