Buff Greatsword or Return HBS / Longsword back to their original stats.

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

Biased Opinion from me (I use Greatsword):
Why is it that, HBS and Longsword get buffed to the point where basically they do as much damage than GS(I know HBS is 1 less cut).  I know i'll get trolled for this post but just doesn't make sense to me why a larger sword does less cut damage.  I'd be content with just a 1 cut boost.  Thanks and apply it IMMEDIATELY!

[Rebelyell]

it will make sens when you will lern something about that weapons

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

it will make sens when you will lern something about that weapons

I will take constructive criticism when you learn about grammar. 

[Tears of Destiny]

Biased Opinion from me...

Well there you go.

The stubby weapons received damage buffs, but so did the larger ones if you look carefully, Danish is +1 cut, German is +1 pierce, etc. All Most swords are now notably distinct instead of "here are the 5 swords you will ever see."

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

True I am biased, I just want a logical explanation is all.  If every other weapon above (on the shop list) is higher cut damage than Longsword, why is GS only one that is not.

[TurmoilTom]

Ulfson, think about what you're doing.

You're asking for a Greatsword buff. No, I'm not even fucking kidding. You're actually doing that very thing right now.

Just wait until your mother hears about this.

[Tears of Destiny]

Logical explanation is probably between balance and realism, I dunno. Blame Fasader.


Regardless, Greatswords do NOT need to be buffed, they already have great reach.

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

BUFF THEM!

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

You're right it probably doesn't need a buff, but in my mind I wanted to use that to bring attention to why did HBS and Longsword get a buff...they were probably balanced before if not OP (before patch).  Just not understanding the reasoning behind balance.  Because now everyone and their mother will be just buying HBS and Longsword b/c they're the most viable.

[Aku_Ankka]

You're right it probably doesn't need a buff, but in my mind I wanted to use that to bring attention to why did HBS and Longsword get a buff...they were probably balanced before if not OP (before patch).  Just not understanding the reasoning behind balance.  Because now everyone and their mother will be just buying HBS and Longsword b/c they're the most viable.

No.

[Tydeus]

They were buffed for being short, and thus shitty. They were buffed because it was a better idea to bring the lesser used 2h weapons up to par with the greatswords, than simply nerfing greatswords to the level of less used, underpowered weapons. Realistically it makes sense for longer, heavier weapons to do more damage, but from a balance perspective where length is the king stat(length was/is king irl as well), it only means that with the old stats, those weapons were in a shitty position.

[Strider]

Why is everyone -1 ing? Great sword needs a buff. Even two hand sword has more cut.

[Leshma]

Well there you go.

The stubby weapons received damage buffs, but so did the larger ones if you look carefully, Danish is +1 cut/pierce, German is +1 cut/pierce, etc. All Most swords are now notably distinct instead of "here are the 5 swords you will ever see."

Fixed.

[Pentecost]

True I am biased, I just want a logical explanation is all.  If every other weapon above (on the shop list) is higher cut damage than Longsword, why is GS only one that is not.

Because it is geared at stabbing, not slashing. The normal Great Sword has a 26p stab with 93 speed and 120 length, increasing to 28p with 94 speed once heirloomed to +3. That's insane. That's actually better than the pre-patch German Greatsword for stabbing.

[Smoothrich]

People think the OP is talking about all great swords, but he just means the weapon named Great Sword, which is a shorter, faster, and weaker German GS.

I'd rather see it get more thrust damage instead of more cut damage, personally.  Or switch the looming bonus to +3 pierce and +2 cut instead of the other way around.