Why cheat?

[v/onMega]

Calling injustice in a moment of injustice.
Get your pathetic, cheating ass out of here for good.

Trying to defend your actions the way you do makes your sorry ass look even worse.

[Bjord]

I did not force cheat, I'm talking about the mechanics of the game, how to improve it.

I do not excuses, I can do without this game, but will play without players?
How much do we have the innocent?

I don't want you permanently banned, I just want you to stop cheating. Managing other people's accounts on the level of magnitude that you and your officers were doing was only to get an advantage, not because it was easier. What is easier is playing Strategus how it's meant to be played.

But it's up to chadz and the gang to decide your fate. Until then, if you ever want to play with this account again I advise you to re-think your values.

[Vibe]

I don't want you permanently banned, I just want you to stop cheating.

Because not permabanning cheaters worked SO well last time.

[Bjord]

There was no explicit reprimand except for Harpag, IIRC?

So in other words, he knew it was baddy bad to "assist" his members with Strategus, he just didn't care or think about other people's feelings on the matter. Other people being namely their enemies.

But whatever, we'll see. I doubt he is going to stop, I just wanted to express that it's never too late to change.

[pepejul]

PEPE never cheats but his e-peen is GIGANTIC ! 

[T_Grellenort]

I've been playing for so long, I've seen a lot of things, and now I'm leaving. You gloat and think you perfect, but templars are silent.
Enjoying defense the Virgin.

Goodbye.

[Segd]

Grellenort, why don't you guys just play like everyone else? If you enjoy competing so much, now is your chance to do so on more level ground.

Like this guys? 

         

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8,694,882,735 gold

http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/strategus-round-4-starting-sunday-1200-cet/

Imho, we need another 1000 cd-keys to have as much gold as some guys on Strat 3 had 
& duplicating gold is more criminal than multiaccaunting, because you don't even need to do math & management, only to make millions with few mouse clicks.

Of coarse I didn't deny that multiaccs should be punished, but gold duplicaters should have been banned too.

[Bjord]

I've been playing for so long, I've seen a lot of things, and now I'm leaving. You rejoice and think you perfect, but templars are silent.
Enjoying defense the Virgin.

Goodbye.

Maybe it's a shame, but you caused it yourself.

Good bye.

Like this guys?  http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/strategus-round-4-starting-sunday-1200-cet/

Imho, we need another 1000 cd-keys to have as much gold as some guys on Strat 3 had 
& duplicating gold is more criminal than multiaccaunting, because you don't even need to do math & management, only to make millions with few mouse clicks.

Of coarse I didn't deny that multiaccs should be punished, but gold duplicaters should have been banned too.

I agree with you, gold duping was ridiculous. Some people went seriously overboard with it.

Anyway, time will tell. I don't think Strat will die, but I think it's a shame. Even if I fought UIF in every strat, I don't want to see them all banned. No white-knighting here, just think everyone could use a second chance.

[Vibe]

just think everyone could use a second chance.

You mean third chance

[Bjord]

You mean third chance

As I said, I don't recall Union being punished before.

This is their 2nd offence?

[Vibe]

As I said, I don't recall Union being punished before.

This is their 2nd offence?

"Even if I fought UIF in every strat, I don't want to see them all banned. No white-knighting here, just think everyone could use a second chance."

was refering to this

[Osiris]

Templars are silent? wtf is that supposed to mean ^^

Templars have not come here to flame on mass or very loudly but that doesnt mean we are cheaters O.o

[Tennenoth]

Templars are silent? wtf is that supposed to mean ^^

Templars have not come here to flame on mass or very loudly but that doesnt mean we are cheaters O.o

"Speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Merely an attempt the divert attention towards another clan I would think. I wish people wouldn't do things like that, you get caught red handed, you suffer the consequences, don't run around making excuses or pointing fingers at people who haven't been caught.

No one is innocent but not everyone cheats. I reiterate, you break the rules, you deal with the fall out, simple as.

[Bjord]

"Even if I fought UIF in every strat, I don't want to see them all banned. No white-knighting here, just think everyone could use a second chance."

was refering to this

I see.

Well I have no love for Greys, they ignored the warnings and I think they're the head of the snake, or rather the biggest head. I was still talking about Union in that post, but yeah I was being vague when I meant to refer to Union as "them".

[Oberyn]

Segd has a different perspective on all of this. Cheaters cheat because it is possible to do so in his eyes. It is the dev's fault for creating a system where it is easy to do so. He basically just comes right out and says Yes we are multiaccounting and sharing accounts and lying about it when confronted, only way to make us confess is when we get caught, and we will continue to do so as long as it is possible. Apparently justified in his eyes because "but but everyone does it!!".

I didn't deny that bans are fair. I'm just saying that multiaccounting would be last forever if devs won't change the system. Again: it is impossible to ban all cheaters, but it is possible to eliminate the cause of multiaccaunting.

Again: you could ban half multiaccounters right now. Half will stay in the shadow because they use proxy\relatives.
But next time caught cheaters would be just more careful. & in Strat 5,6,7,...,9000 there still would be a lot of multiaccs.

Yep. So?  We are bad. I'm just trying to propose new system to eliminate multiacc advantage & you all just saying: "Omg! Cheaters!" Make some other suggestion to eliminate IP & relatives exploit if you think mine is bad..