Great long bardiche: new patch fucked it totally?

[sjarken]

Great Long Bardiche
Type:Polearm
Requirement:18 strength
Weight:3.5
Slots:2
Upkeep:959 gold
Shop price:13,705 gold
Value:6,853 gold
Speed:87                                           ------> former speed was 88 before new patch?
Length:155
Thrust:18 pierce
Swing:46 cut                                     ------> The damadge is now weak, look at the new stats for 2handers and other long axes. + its unbalanced
Bonus against shield
Unbalanced

Due to its lenght weight the wep damadge should be greater than other smaller lighter similar wep's.

[Tzar]

INJUSTICE

[Ujin]

This weapon should be the unbalanced, shield-breaking  machine of doom (or teamkills). So i say it deserves it's damage back.

[Miwiw]

Was Great Long Bardiche unbalanced before? :O

It needs more dmg then....

[Kafein]

Seriously guys...

This weapon needs an unbalanced tag, no matter the damage. Furthermore, 46 is enough to oneshot many people, even with the bare minimum strength to use the weapon (PS 6). 87 speed is also way too much when you realise the momentum needed to put back that kind of metal-on-top-of-a-long-wooden-pole-thing in a guard position after a swing. It's one of the longest (as in, gayest) 4D weapon in the game. This status should grant it horrible stats.

[sjarken]

Seriously guys...

This weapon needs an unbalanced tag, no matter the damage. Furthermore, 46 is enough to oneshot many people, even with the bare minimum strength to use the weapon (PS 6). 87 speed is also way too much when you realise the momentum needed to put back that kind of metal-on-top-of-a-long-wooden-pole-thing in a guard position after a swing. It's one of the longest (as in, gayest) 4D weapon in the game. This status should grant it horrible stats.

True it must be unbalanced.
BUT.... the damadge is a joke when u look at weight and lenght. ---> Many shorter and lighter is doing more damadge, it dosen't add up =)

[Dark_Blade]

cool story bro
every nefing of long spamming pole arms makes this game more balanced cuz.

Speed:87 
Length:155
Swing:46 cut                                     ------> The damadge is now weak, look at the new stats for 2handers and other long axes. + its unbalanced

flamberge
speed rating: 86
weapon length: 152
swing damage: 46 cut
+Can't sheath

Persian Battle Axe
speed rating: 90
weapon length: 95
swing damage: 48 cut

lolthread

[sjarken]

Spam? U tried these weapons?

It's not about spam.... AND u missed my point o_O

Long Bardiche                                         -----> not unbalanced, -1 damage, same weight, shorter, faster.
Type:Polearm
Requirement:17 strength
Weight:3.5
Slots:2
Upkeep:485 gold
Shop price:6,934 gold
Value:3,467 gold
Speed:89
Length:140
Thrust:18 pierce
Swing:45 cut
Bonus against shield

Flamberge                                   -------> +6 stab damadge, -3 lenght, same cut, not unbalanced, -1 speed.
weapon length: 152
weight: 4
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 86
weapon length: 152
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2

Bardiche                                 -------------------> Shorter, same cut, +4speed, lighter.
weapon length: 102
weight: 3
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 102
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield

[Piok]

Truly terrifying  weapon this GLB so OP and overused. Everyone has one 
In fact everything with 100+ speed can spam you to death (LB user experience) 

Now somebody explain me how is possible that steel pick 1h do more damage than English Bill

[Strider]

Look at the Great Long Bardiche compared to the Great Bardiche:

Great Long Bardiche                     

weight: 3.5
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 87
weapon length: 155
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield
13,705 Gold

Great Bardiche
weight: 3
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 89  (+2)
weapon length: 116
thrust damage: 0 pierce  (No Stab)
swing damage: 47 cut  (+1) 
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield
7,426  (-6,279 Gold)

As you can see the Great Long Bardiche is weaker than it's "little brother", the Great Bardiche.
The Great Long Bardiche's swing should go up to 48 cut to make it slightly more powerful than it's "lil bro".

[Haboe]

It has 1 less damage, it has way mroe lenght and a stab... i don't see how its weaker then its lill brother

[Jarlek]

Truly terrifying  weapon this GLB so OP and overused. Everyone has one 
In fact everything with 100+ speed can spam you to death (LB user experience) 

Now somebody explain me how is possible that steel pick 1h do more damage than English Bill

It's the same reason that the Swiss Halberd has the same swing damage as katana and morningstar.

[Smoothrich]

Look at the Great Long Bardiche compared to the Great Bardiche:

Great Long Bardiche                     

weight: 3.5
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 87
weapon length: 155
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield
13,705 Gold

Great Bardiche
weight: 3
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 89  (+2)
weapon length: 116
thrust damage: 0 pierce  (No Stab)
swing damage: 47 cut  (+1) 
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield
7,426  (-6,279 Gold)

As you can see the Great Long Bardiche is weaker than it's "little brother", the Great Bardiche.
The Great Long Bardiche's swing should go up to 48 cut to make it slightly more powerful than it's "lil bro".

way to make the stats comparison and conveniently forget to note that the great long bardiche has 40 more reach

[Sylfirus]

cool story bro
every nefing of long spamming pole arms makes this game more balanced cuz.

Speed:87 
Length:155
Swing:46 cut                                     ------> The damadge is now weak, look at the new stats for 2handers and other long axes. + its unbalanced

flamberge
speed rating: 86
weapon length: 152
swing damage: 46 cut
+Can't sheath

Persian Battle Axe
speed rating: 90
weapon length: 95
swing damage: 48 cut

lolthread

Exactly but the animation is not the same , so +1 damage would be good (not +2)

[owens]

It is meant to be a top tier pole-arm that although unwieldy is capable of block locking people and killing them.


It should have lots of damage no serious player is going to use it anyway.