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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 05:12:53 pm »
+1
Did i just read this......

Only for running punish skilled archer? Or all remote career?


....or this even......

Please respect each career. Please respect each professional players, rather than respect for a career! Thank you!


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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 05:45:49 pm »
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When did we get some many Chinese people on the forums?
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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2012, 05:53:44 pm »
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Edit: well they are changing it back so no need to rage...
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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2012, 06:16:15 pm »
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@0Baylor0,,

我和上海也是个中国人, 要问作者吗? 去IRC找Shik. 或者给他发个短信/ PM. cRPG作者们不仅痛恨弓箭手....他们也很讨厌骑兵....在cRPG 步兵=最强的

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Baylor, 看看cRPG的网站链接. 它被称为Melee Gaming喔.......

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2012, 07:27:56 pm »
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I strongly protest this update.

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2012, 07:43:16 pm »
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Holy cow, more Chinese input.

Oh reekrus, get the wadda cuz shit's goin' down.

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2012, 10:31:06 pm »
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我是在外服玩的,顶多在国服打过酱油。肯定算不上高手,但是也绝不是菜鸟!
问题在于国服人数是少数,而外服是多数。导致作者更新是肯定优先考虑外服玩家的感想而不是国服玩家的感想。
我之前的发帖过于激进了,对不起。但是我倒是觉得现在的弓手比以前更强了。虽说熟练度降低,但是除非你是高跑(大于5跑)的弓手,否则准确度不会有很大影响。顶多是准星维持大小的时间变短。这是我的个人感觉。反之,我现在可以5箭以内射死一般的24/15加点步兵了。即便他们穿着重甲,只要不是超远距离我也能对敌造成伤害并且至少让敌人冲锋时要考虑一下后果。这难道不是弓手的作用吗?
另外真心没见过几个厉害的投掷带盾的,别忘了盾也减熟练。弩手躲掩体你也可以躲。实在不行不跟他交火就是了。等他瞄准我方步兵时在去射他。骑铁马的有几个人?在国服40人时有一个铁马也许是很大作用,但是美服100+人就算6匹铁马集团冲锋也会被导弹245和一片的枪盾剑盾淹没。就算我射不死他有着锥头箭和高强攻至少也让他雁过拔毛。美服欧服人多所以导致这些你举的例子都不适用。我知道国服不同,但是再怎么不同他也是少数,作者还是会优先考虑外服。
再看别的外国友人发的帖子,下一次更新应该就会修改了,不过我真心希望强弓不减熟练。
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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2012, 11:18:11 pm »
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I did a 15/24 shielder for 2 gens, it couldn't catch kiting archers.  Nothing could except cav or other ranged.  Thus you got a shitty game.

Delete shields, replace with dual wielding 1handers.  Delete the accounts of any ranged player with multiple gens so they have no chance to respec, and remove all bows.  Mod Saved.

Shielders are not a good counter to kiting archers.  Shielders with throwing on the other hand...
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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2012, 11:40:04 pm »
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江南风格!
Jiangnan style! (Stupid Google translate  :lol: )

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2012, 02:48:47 am »
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Relax, there are always complaint after major update.  Chinese archers cannot represent all the other chinese players, who are still testing the new patch :lol:

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2012, 02:53:06 am »
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我是在外服玩的,顶多在国服打过酱油。肯定算不上高手,但是也绝不是菜鸟!
问题在于国服人数是少数,而外服是多数。导致作者更新是肯定优先考虑外服玩家的感想而不是国服玩家的感想。
我之前的发帖过于激进了,对不起。但是我倒是觉得现在的弓手比以前更强了。虽说熟练度降低,但是除非你是高跑(大于5跑)的弓手,否则准确度不会有很大影响。顶多是准星维持大小的时间变短。这是我的个人感觉。反之,我现在可以5箭以内射死一般的24/15加点步兵了。即便他们穿着重甲,只要不是超远距离我也能对敌造成伤害并且至少让敌人冲锋时要考虑一下后果。这难道不是弓手的作用吗?
另外真心没见过几个厉害的投掷带盾的,别忘了盾也减熟练。弩手躲掩体你也可以躲。实在不行不跟他交火就是了。等他瞄准我方步兵时在去射他。骑铁马的有几个人?在国服40人时有一个铁马也许是很大作用,但是美服100+人就算6匹铁马集团冲锋也会被导弹245和一片的枪盾剑盾淹没。就算我射不死他有着锥头箭和高强攻至少也让他雁过拔毛。美服欧服人多所以导致这些你举的例子都不适用。我知道国服不同,但是再怎么不同他也是少数,作者还是会优先考虑外服。
再看别的外国友人发的帖子,下一次更新应该就会修改了,不过我真心希望强弓不减熟练。
首先,我说话也有点激动了。。抱歉。
这次更新,最大的原因不是弓箭手不平衡,而是外服的玩家受不了弓箭手的射和风筝了。这是最大的原因。。。
再者,除了几个不懂玩弓箭的人,你能说说现在的弓箭手有几个人的跑动没有上6吗?7跑动的弓箭手遍地都是。所以,你说的影响不大,不对!是非常大!拉弓的速度,准星的大小,维持准星的时间。都变了!
你可能还长时间没有回国服了。。。。现在国服投掷和骑兵很多。。
算了,其他我不说了,没意思!战场上的事瞬息万变,争不明白。

更新的最大的原因是外服的人受不了弓箭手了。。。。而不是弓箭手太强了。。。。。。
他们烦硬直,烦风筝,,所以削弱了,就这么简单。。。。。
这样的原因下,,说再多弓箭手的困难,都是扯淡!

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2012, 03:22:09 am »
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Ranged in this is like baby's first FPS game. Slow moving targets that don't shoot back, Point & click, fast projectiles, spammable shots

you can give him - but he's right. If you want archery to be hard hidding and able to kite and bloody accurate, you are not different from the 2h crying for not having a top speed/dmg/ length weapon anymore. In no way the ranged gameplay is fair compared to the depth of melee fighting.
make it harder to play and we can talk about buffing it

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2012, 03:49:59 am »
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另外,我补充一句,作者这样的举动,只会让弓手转战骑射,或者大力弓手:10-13强弓!
这是大家愿意的?那就拭目以待吧!

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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2012, 06:59:59 am »
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我是在外服玩的,顶多在国服打过酱油。肯定算不上高手,但是也绝不是菜鸟!
问题在于国服人数是少数,而外服是多数。导致作者更新是肯定优先考虑外服玩家的感想而不是国服玩家的感想。
我之前的发帖过于激进了,对不起。但是我倒是觉得现在的弓手比以前更强了。虽说熟练度降低,但是除非你是高跑(大于5跑)的弓手,否则准确度不会有很大影响。顶多是准星维持大小的时间变短。这是我的个人感觉。反之,我现在可以5箭以内射死一般的24/15加点步兵了。即便他们穿着重甲,只要不是超远距离我也能对敌造成伤害并且至少让敌人冲锋时要考虑一下后果。这难道不是弓手的作用吗?
另外真心没见过几个厉害的投掷带盾的,别忘了盾也减熟练。弩手躲掩体你也可以躲。实在不行不跟他交火就是了。等他瞄准我方步兵时在去射他。骑铁马的有几个人?在国服40人时有一个铁马也许是很大作用,但是美服100+人就算6匹铁马集团冲锋也会被导弹245和一片的枪盾剑盾淹没。就算我射不死他有着锥头箭和高强攻至少也让他雁过拔毛。美服欧服人多所以导致这些你举的例子都不适用。我知道国服不同,但是再怎么不同他也是少数,作者还是会优先考虑外服。
再看别的外国友人发的帖子,下一次更新应该就会修改了,不过我真心希望强弓不减熟练。

强弓减熟练 ,比跑动减熟练更真实。骑砍和CRPG的根本特色,就在于真实,所以要遵循尽量真实设定的原则。
楼主怕的是,这次跑动减熟练了,下次更新变成 跑动+强弓 同时减少熟练!!!
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Re: Strongly protest this update
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2012, 07:06:10 am »
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强弓减熟练 ,比跑动减熟练更真实。骑砍和CRPG的根本特色,就在于真实,所以要遵循尽量真实设定的原则。
楼主怕的是,这次跑动减熟练了,下次更新变成 跑动+强弓 同时减少熟练!!!
遵循尽量真实的原则。。。
为什么只有弓箭手?
骑兵,弩手,步兵,不是都应该遵循么