Is archery bugged atm?

[a_bear_irl]

Nope, I'm a 12th gen cav/polearm/1h/shield at level 32 currently.  I hate archers as much as the next guy both on my horse and on foot.  The difference is that I don't bitch and complain to the dev's to fix my own stupidity.  I try not to put myself in a situation where there's enemy archers on all sides, and I'm their only target.

Aww how cute, I'm a massive shit poster now.  How is it a shit post to suggest that instead of listening to the players whine, you tell them to learn how to adapt to conditions on the battlefield?  If you really think athletics lowering WPF for archery is the solution (which I wont' say is a good or bad thing) at least let them respec.  Or at least let the people over 31 respec for free...seems just as bad as the horse nerf from a while back (moved riding difficulty from 4 to 6 on courser).  It was a good move to do, but it really fucked over a lot of horseman over level 31 who never wanted to retire again.

you're a moron, dude. the problem was never archer damage or accuracy, the problem was kiting. if you've never seen an archer kite people around then you haven't played in the past 3+ months.

your idea of game balance revolves around telling people to respec specifically to counter broken game mechanics, (if you dont like getting kited spec cav hyuk hyuk hyuk) and you're generally a bad poster. stop posting.

edit: also, i dont even see how you can argue against this change. it's a HUGE buff to the right kind of archery, and a big nerf to the wrong kinds.

[Iymore]

i just tried a 13 pd stf char, it's awesome. i can keep aim close for 3 sec and people die with 2 arrows!

[TurmoilTom]

you're a moron, dude. the problem was never archer damage or accuracy, the problem was kiting. if you've never seen an archer kite people around then you haven't played in the past 3+ months.

Actually, Marathon and I have already concluded that Huseby has never actually played this game and that he only posts on the forums.

I'm convinced now that you don't play this game, only post on the forums.

[Boss_Awesome]

edit: also, i dont even see how you can argue against this change. it's a HUGE buff to the right kind of archery, and a big nerf to the wrong kinds.

I don't see why we can't have both kinds of archery.  It's not like kiting archers were broken, they still died all the time.  Very few archers ever topped the score board and master of the field kept the kiters from being able to just run forever.  With the current system all we get are the strength archers, which is pretty cool, but it sucks that archers can only ever have 1 effective build.  Some change is good, but changing someone's class often and in major ways gets old.  I really just want them to figure out what they are going to do with archery and stick with it.  I'd prefer having both strength and agility builds available.

[Tears of Destiny]

Aww how cute, I'm a massive shit poster now.

Donkey Dammit what do I have to do to increase my title =\

[BattalGazi]

I believe heavy armored 2 handers are ruling this game; every other class should be nerfed so that they can get more kills. I truly believe this. Every nerf in this game has something to help 2handers generally ( except for some really few changes done which nerfed 2 handers, which was the end of the mod for them ... )

This is an overview of the reasons for patches so far , from the perspective of a heavy 2 hander:

- 1 handers are too fast, they spam us, we can't block : NERF 1HANDERS
- some knockdown weapons actually knock us down, we can't block : NERF KNOCKDOWN WEAPONS
- we got caught by lancers in the open, they couch us, we can't block : INCREASE CAV UPKEEP, NERF LANCING-COUCHING
- archers everywhere, they have sacrificed their IF and PS to ATH, they outrun us and shoot us, we can't block : NERF ARCHERY
- HA's have horses and they are ranged, double the trouble, we can't block : INCREASE CAV UPKEEP, NERF HA

[Arrowblood]

i just tried a 13 pd stf char, it's awesome. i can keep aim close for 3 sec and people die with 2 arrows!

Only because the Hero told the secret.

[Miley]

I thought archery was fine prior to this patch (at least on NA).

[Havoco]

Donkey Dammit what do I have to do to increase my title =\

Declare war on all EU, I'm sure you'll get "massive naivety" after that. 

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less extreme sarcasm btw

[Apsod]

i just tried a 13 pd stf char, it's awesome. i can keep aim close for 3 sec and people die with 2 arrows!

Afaik PD does not do more damage when it is higher than 4 above the bows difficulty. If that has not been changed then 13 PD is useless.

[Kunio]

Afaik PD does not do more damage when it is higher than 4 above the bows difficulty. If that has not been changed then 13 PD is useless.

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[Apsod]

13 PD deals same damage like 10 PD with a longbow but your arrows going faster and further + you can aim better.

Still, I think that some wpf or maybe PS/IF would be better.

[Tennenoth]

<Shik> ath nerf reverted for next patch

However I wouldn't be surprised if there was an increase to the weight of arrows shortly following though. It fixes the problem and I believe it's a reasonable compromise for not murdering our builds!

Thank you Shik, we'll hold you to your word, even if "The Italian" finds out.

A bit of behind the scenes as well:

<Meow> we call him the italion stallion
<Meow> or il duce

[Vodner]

Still, I think that some wpf or maybe PS/IF would be better.

With a 36/3 build, you can have near-laser beam accurate arrows, 12 PD, 9 PS, 1 ATH, and 1 WM (all in archery). It's pretty funny to pull out your hammer against somebody trying to facehug you, then 2-shot them. It's not worth going any lower PD than that (until it gets fixed).

[Iymore]

Afaik PD does not do more damage when it is higher than 4 above the bows difficulty. If that has not been changed then 13 PD is useless.

you cannot put point in atl, more pd is more accurate then wpf now also without atl hybrid builds is useless so that is the best

Only because the Hero told the secret.

my hero <3